Dr. Gonzo

Exactly, that's why I I quoted that post to remind him that things are never as bad or as good as they seem. Don't worry he'll be back on board next year when we bounce back and he can point to that post and say "see, I knew Goodwin was a ripper I always backed him"

And then do it all again in 18 months.

Whenever these things come up I always try and find some way to get out of it. Generally by explaining that I have actual critical work that needs to be done instead of participating in a corporate bukkake session.

It wasn't THE problem, it was a contributing factor to how things turned out. Why do people seem to find it so difficult to consider a multitude of factors impacting our performance this season? It was a perfect storm of everything that could go wrong going wrong. It was a bad season but it won't define this playing or coaching group.

It's not about messages delivered from the coaches so much as onfield coaching, ensuring players are positioning themselves correctly, being mindful of their opponents positioning and ensuring they keep the correct options at front of mind. The AFL wanted to remove runners as they didn't like then being infield coaches but the thing is the more inexperienced teams (of which we are one) would be impacted by this more than the experienced teams.

How could he rate Frost as highly as some on here? He'd have to be a mix of Scarlett and Fletcher with a touch of Silvagni thrown in.

Yeah Richmond's success was built off the foundations laid by Wallace ? pBS

So you're off Plough now?

That was earlier this season. He hasn't improved, he's still chaotic and had the most goals scored from turnovers for our side (if not the comp).

Does the 100m take into account the metres lost when the ball goes flying back over his head from a turnover?

This gets brought up every year and it never happens. Supporters like to think they'll get something for nothing but clubs are far more intelligent with their dealings with other clubs, especially ours.

The video is cut short. After he won the free kick he promptly kicked the ball out on the full missing a bloke 15m away.

He looks really good galloping out of the backline with ball in hand until he turns it over and it goes back over his head for a goal. I won't be too upset if he goes, he's only depth when we have a fully fit list so depends what we get for him

Corporate/HR onanism.

What anyone with a brain could've told you.

It's a cumulative effect

Have faith jnr. We have a young team and a young coach and they'll learn from this year. Give them a chance to prove themselves next year and have an opportunity for redemption.

It's funny how perceptions change based on on field performance

The Sopranos ended perfectly.

Who is walking? McCartney and Jennings were pushed out, Rawlings has gone for another gig after 8 years. Hardly a mass exodus.

Noone said it was "all" down to injuries and surgeries, only that those issues exacerbated other issues. A down year was made horrendous due to these additional factors. Some of us are able to understand nuance. Fwiw I wanted the assistants cleaned out last year, I thought we needed fresh eyes then.

Oliver, Brayshaw, Petracca, lever, salem, Viney, Harmes, Weideman with TMac, Melksham and Gawn all 27-28. Saying the list is ageing is a stretch, our core group of players are all still quite young

Carlton? It was the worst kept secret they tanked for 3 years, everyone knew it and noone cared. Collingwood, Hawthorn, West Coast etc etc

Ageing list?

I doubt anyone will disagree with anything in that article. No one denies this season was shithouse and unacceptable. Those you refer to as the "company men" of which I assume I am one simply think it is worth seeing what the response is next year before burning the place down and rebuilding from scratch again. We did finish top 4 last year after all after 5 years of linear improvement. Of course that kind of rational thought can't compete with "but I've been following this club for 55 years I demand success" etc