Little Goffy

Excellent! That'll about cover the round of drinks for everyone on Demonland who had to take extra heart medication for two weeks!

Goes at least as far back as Shane Woewodin to Collingwood. We needed to move him off our salary cap and were willing to still pay part of it just to get the rest clear. So that's 20 years that I know of. Definitely becoming more common recently.

@SthSea22 "Kozzy will officially ask for a trade to Port Adelaide this week Source is from someone who wouldn't b [censored] to me. Gave me the heads up due to me being a massive Dee. Have seen screenshots of the cover letter that had been written up by his Manager The wellbeing factor is the main reason to leave Melbourne DEVESTATED" "Announcement after the BnF lads Reading the comments from Tom Morris and then the direct feedback from Koz's fam confirms that i will never acknowledge what the media put up He is gone fellas." "Would you trust Morris or Koz himself? I'll come back to this comment next week when it's made official that he wants out Carlton will come into the discussion which will see Pick 11 head to us and Koz to PA." I won't shoot the messenger but if I had a horse I'd be storing the [censored] ready for your next visit.

Hi Just Koz, welcome to Demonland! I'm going to have a 'think out loud' about this; I feel like this problem has been clinging to the club for decades - since the Lyon-Shwartz-Neitz period the only exception was the brief moment in 2021 when we had all our tall forwards together for about 10 games and thumped our way to a premiership! I feel like we nearly nearly had the recipe in 2023 but there were simply too many injuries stacked on top of each other, and since then the forward line hasn't been able to find an effective rhythm. Optimistically, Van Rooyen and (when in form) Petty can both contest effectively and are both pretty good at getting around the ground. They're nicely balanced tall forwards. I'm confident about Van Rooyen's future but the 'when in form' part for Petty is a massive issue. Our tall forward group is now amazingly young with Petty the oldest at 24 and the others 20, 21 and 22. I agree that a mature hand would be helpful but when the names on offer are Darling, Lynch, Membrey and Stringer I'm just not getting enthusiastic. There's only a few free agents of interest for this area in 2025 and I don't hold high hopes for any of them moving. Oscar Allen only if he's willing to move across the country and take less money just to be away from the Eagles. Darcy Fogarty would depend on how the talls pecking order plays out at Adelaide, but with Walker surely finishing soon he's unlikely to be on the outer. Tom De Koning would be rolled gold if he was willing to be a forward first and ruck second and presumptive Gawn successor. But my main thought is that getting a key forward who is mature and effective is one of the hardest tasks in list management, and recruiting them from other clubs is seriously expensive. For now it looks like we're going to persevere with our kids and hope for a generation of home-grown talent to deliver, and that's not a bad decision but I do share your concerns.

To be fair to India's remarkable rail service, it is relatively few derailments per passenger-km and cargo volume km. In contrast, on some demonland threads the only sensation of movement at all is the derailments!

Pfft, I can easily run 2k in 2hrs, with ot without socks.

It isn't MFC related but I stumbled over this and felt a need to share a bit of vintage culture. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9mMg3jC6PQ/ From the very start where it looks like a Monty Python sketch to the end where you realise the guy is just 46 years old, it is magic.

Gold coast with two extra first round picks in 2025. What? Is their academy closing down? Clear winners out of this, not only in trade value. Can you imagine the joy of death-riding BOTH Port and Collingwood in the same season?

Amazing construction effort if true. Out that way $100m will only buy you about 15 houses.

I'm not going to go all gooey-eyed over 'athlete does training' in itself, but I am feeling positive about Petracca having this chance to reset mentally. That program goes into astonishing levels of analysis of breath, blood, wattage outputs and probably stool samples as well. They also have multiple cycles of previous records to refer to and give Trac feedback on every aspect of his body. To be away from routines, pushing yourself under precision monitoring and guidance, and getting instant feedback on how your body is going - it seems like an ideal way for any player to restore confidence after a major injury. Got to wonder if something like this should become a common offering for players almost like the concussion baseline test. Maybe the special feature of new players' second pre-season?

Someone at the club saw Clarrie's interview on Unlaced and thought deeply about the story from an early training session where Nathan Jones gave him a whack to the throat. That'll be Jones' main job; giving Clayton Oliver a regular whack to remind him he's in the AFL now.

Seems there are many 'midfielders who can also play forward' if that'll do. Murphy Reid is probably the standout mid+forward or forward+mid - constantly described as 'smart' 'clever' 'effective' and 'value per disposal' at the same time as accumulating plenty of disposals when in midfield. We'd be lucky and thrilled to get him at 5, I suspect. Josh Smillie is the 194cm midfielder who has also kicked a steady flow of goals. [must not compare to Bontempelli] Bontemsmillie? Likely available at 5 but unlikely at 9, but not impossible. I think at this stage that would be my dream pair. Two radically different midfielders in both body and style, who are both capable of adding some spice to our attacking movement. In Taylor we trust. Amen.

Brainwave! We're confident we're going to get Kalani White as a F/S next year and that we'd likely have to burn out first pick anyway for points.

Clearly the club believes that; - We are going to bounce back in 2025. - The top end of this draft is elite. And probably also; - It is much easier and cheaper to trade for role-players to meet needs than it is to attract top-level talent. - Tasmania is coming.

Having the returning-from-injury fresh legs of Zanker, Purcell and Paxman all at once might be a pretty powerful effect in the circumstances.

Everyone please remember the conflict resolution and relationship repair sentence starters; I feel... (say something about a particular negative feeling - don't generalise) Because... (give the reasons for that particular feeling - don't go wider) I would prefer... (describe a realistic change that would help mitigate that particular feeling)

Could only seem like value if you're making an assessment of next year's draft compared to this one and think 13 in this one is worth much more than (for example) 13 in 2025. My reference point is the trade for Lever, which looked like 'overs' on paper but then 2017 turned out to have a very solid group in the picks 20-40 range (actually better than the 10-20 range!) and the 2018 draft turned out to be very patchy outside the top half-dozen or so.

That's so meta. I am really impressed.

Similarly, Brisbane won a premiership on the back of a pre-season at Vegas.

Or we can just get one of those robot vacuum cleaners for his home. Geelong are starting to looking like systematic home-wreckers. You'd probably find their profile on a sugar baby website. I really look forward to the day they get audited.

Taking it back to general media pile-ons, I suspect it is going to be a very rough few weeks for the Hawks after their pair of high-profile young small forwards - one a teenager and the other recently traded to them for cheap due to attitude and having his illicit consumptions make it onto social media - cancelled their attendance at a kids footy clinic at the last moment because they were hungover (+?) after the Hawthorn Best and Fairest night. You'd think he'd ease up on the drinking at least, after the massive amount of his own bathwater he publicly consumed prior to the semi-final. Haaa ha ha ha haa haa haaaaaa obviously I'm joking there will be no consequences. He's a 'cheeky character who enlivens the game'.

Is it too late to amicably and mutually end his contract and allow him to move as he free agent? Geelong would love it because they wouldn't have to give up anything, and based on the compensation for Josh Battle we would be awarded more draft picks than Tasmania.

I suspect that the biggest cultural difference between our club and others is that we have so many people keen to pursue their agendas and vendettas through public channels. Or, to put it another way, people ready to hurt the club in order to contest control over the club. It is why the only times we've been able to turn in positive directions have been the times we've had 'unchallengeable' leadership figures, such as Stynes or the Roos/PJ combo. While that's going on the leaders within the club who are trying to address the substantive issues get publicly whipped by BOTH the faction resisting changes and the faction impatient for change. Then there are certain unscrupulous vendetta-bearers and wannabe king-makers who will take both those sides into the public domain just for the cause of white-anting the current leadership. It would be fascinating to be able to map it all out.

We're from very different necks of the woods, I suspect, but nothing beats a giant bonfire. Best bonfire I ever had was the final night of a season of outdoor nighttime opera (seriously) that finished with the entire stage - set, curtains, props, base, backstage and definitely some non-regulation bonus flammables - being sent up in flames to a massed chorus of Carmina Burana. I think my mum got free tickets because one of the music teachers at her school was involved. Stick that up ya 'Never tear us apart'.

They are currently having a revival led by a gameshow format they borrowed from the BBC hosted by celebrity talent on loan from the ABC.