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I think the club has heard our comments here, and they are trying to show the clubs Image, in what we deesire. Not so much an overly sympathetic Mcc style. ... but rather a sterner Footy club members & supporters Image, of how WE want our club to be seen and heard. And this is how it ought'a be.

I think he'll be OK after some adjustment. He has spent his whole adult career in a looser club mentality. And has flourished as a player despite this. He will learn imo to raise his standards higher with us. just a long as others who are not in best condition are also made to do likewise. Set the standards Melbourne leaders. Jones'y... I'm looking in your elite fitness direction, matey.............. dee-man 'd their best

Every heart beats true for the red and the blue, And we sing this song to you, Should old acquaintance be forgot, Keep your eye on the red and the blue... I believe these Lyrics, act as an Affirmation ... it think they aid in attracting a narrower type of personality type, who tend to lean more to being extremely sympathetic. Broadly, I think this is part of this clubs wider culture. And I think it allows us to be walked over, off-field, and also influences our team/players success... Via the way our supporters think and act. sympathetically, generously, and sometimes Too 'thoughtful' for our own good. Loyalty, Sympathy, and ...

They're making a statement to May... and an example with May. May is quite casual about putting on heavy hits that wound. IMO, that was the difference... although he missed the head. should have been fined for rough play. end of story. Agreed, the surrounding circumstances make it more understandable.

composure v anxiety +++ homeground advantage.

We were very clumsy early in the game at Geelong... because we were trying to be 'manic' with the footy... flipping it player to player. But our players were all corralled, so we were handling the ball unnecessarily, as the Cats waited outside us, trying to let us panic and lose the ball... which is exactly what happened. We were winning most of the inside contested footy at that stage, And so we needed to be more composed with its use. We should have shepherded, and blocked for the ball carrier, instead and multi-handling the ball, for no gains. Ideally we should have got a kick out or even back, to a loose player to take a mark, and then... we could have used the ball with thought. Directing it better to setup our entries. When we Demons play Anxiety brand footy, we lose. That's when we give the ball up easily and frequently... secret ingredient. composure Add to this, the lack of a settled structure down back... and it was Anxiety central. I think in Hindsight, if May did not come back early for this game. we would have played more within ourselves, and been more cautious with the footy. I think we went in, trying to dominate the Cats from first bounce... and it backfired on us big-time. Because were not ready to play slick like that. We are just not settled enough yet. This week we'll be much better.

For chaos into attack... we need numbers forward. We didn't have that 'early', against the Cats. Chaos I think can still work, with the mongrel bomb, because it always did work. But we have to create from it... Or cause a stoppage in our front half. But we will need some sort of rolling Press to 'stop', they're counter attack.

Sadly we (Mfc) are bearing the Image of the Mcc, in the footy world... but our people, Players, Staff, Off field, are nothing like Toffs... but still the club suffers from the Mcc 'Toff' image. Interestingly, the Mcc does not suffer from any awkward 'imagery', in it's Summertime sports. Cricket is seen as British. It's a footy thing... because 'footy' is the great leveler, within our community. And rightly so. 'footy' is seen as Aussie. So we are seen as almost Un-Aussie in a sense. We need to breakaway from this nexus, that is perceived as looking-down-on things 'Aussie'. This on its own is a major stumbling block, to us growing our base.

We are, traditionally a very Sympathetic group of well wishing supporters. A great group of people, generous, to a fault.

If what your saying is its/they're not a long term idea... you'd be right.

here is the problem... its a career of non fitness and largely non performance. When he did his knee before his first season... I thought, oh, he'll come back, and he'll be OK... No doubt about it He's a kid having fun. I thought Roosy was a but over the top lambasting him. I didn't equate it at that time, too a lack of Professional attitude, just youthful fun and enthusiasm. I suppose mine was a typical Mfc supporter attitude, to our potential stars. No, not so... we are all typically too easy on our players. At a time when the club was almost dead, and the AFL had to step in to help us... gifting us Top-Liners off-field, to get our act back together. As I said before, Tracca is now in his 5 th AFL season. Edit : He is following the worn pathways of Watts, Howe, and other talents... that simply didn't, or couldn't give their best Professional attitude, efforts and condition to this Footy club.

If that's all he fancies, is the bright lights and big games... and he wants to take the lesser games Off. Then send him to AAMI stadium, there's bright lights aplenty over there with the Melbourne Storm, and see how he goes. I don't know, about 'Tonka'... I'm fearing the worst. .

He's had 4 years in the AFL system. In this his 5th Year... and Pro-Rata, he's as heavy as Fev was at Carlton. We do not want to trade him... We want him to get fit and build his aerobic fitness levels to that, of at least that of an VFL midfielder. Would be a starting point. When do you reckon on him becoming a trimmed AFL footballer ? Let's stop making excuses for unfit players... and expect them to be fully Professional in attitude, and in shape.

This ^ He tried to take a few overhead marks at the Cattery, and barely got off the ground. And the bigger opponent spoilt his attempts even with all that low centred weight. then with ball on ground he was ineffectual... a liability unless he's kicking 5 Gls a week. He doesn't defend well. Put him in the midfield Ffs. Even down at Casey. Run him into fitness. Barass would not have him back into the team, until he shed at least 5 Kgs.

Smarts, and a willingness to tackle and stop the ball escaping his area. Remember we are comparing Jones with ANB, as small forwards. I don't share your views Yet , Re Jones being finished. We are currently 2 games into the season.

This is a good basketball'rs build, or amateur footballers. Or toned street build. So he shows a 6 pack , so what.. that isn't the sign of elite aerobic fitness And where are the sinews, to be seen. That suggest super low body fat. .

Positively disturbing it was from OD last year. Now's the time OD... to get stuck into our 22+ Yr olds Go for therm OD. crack in. ?

Effectiveness, across the game... his work was largely nullified. he got a couple of clean taps away, but not much, and our Mids were congested, and coughed it up. Maxy did not take enough marks to assist us. Max tried a few times grabbing the ball from the ruck, and confused his teammates... I don' think any of his grabs from the ruck came off. Stanley was a good contributor for the Cats, taking marks around the boundary creating an target to get out of their D50. He got away from Max a few times. # its not about numbers... its all about effect. Max was well down and didn't really do much creating. Soemtimes you can try to do too much, instead of team.

. "they seek him here, they seek him there" Will the real Terry Wallet please stand up ? "it could be you" - 'PF' ? come on down... ?

Contention : Petracca is too heavy

Jones has more attributes to make him suitable inside 50Mtrs. He has no fear of being crunched, or wearing a heavy tackle, and is a much more & desperate tackler himself. He will take physical chances to find the goals. ANB, I noticed, was missing a lot of attempted tackles. No good when trying to lock the ball inside our 50.

Yeah, theory do understand, but they will not be sure how much to tweak things yet, as we have not played our best yet as individuals... let alone as a team. But we turned a corner with individuals after Qtr time last week. Although we were under the pump from the get go, as we were overly manic in the first, to control the ball,,,, causing us to overuse the ball, Via having our Mids all in too tight, basically handing off the ball, one to another, until we dropped it. like seagulls in flight with a hot chip. We got much better after Qtr time, but were playing catch-up, and so were always under pressure. Omc went to Hawkins, and did OK. Frost was quite good after Qtr time. May was underdone & I think in hindsight should not have played this game. We could have used another smallish running player, IMO. Gawn was beaten by Stanley, overall. Max has been struggling with the new ruck rules, and this has caused confusion with our on-ballers, when he grabs the ball... and he looks to kick it too often. I think we will sort this out this week. Little tweaks.

ANb's not quick enough to play deep forward, strong enough nor smart enough intuitively. He has to play in the wide part of the ground. Jones is an option for your proposal. With his effort strength, and is smarter, more desperate, harder.

If Jeffy comes In... so will Preuss. Tandem.

He's a better user of the body than chip is. And I think has better 'vision'. But is also more arrogant, and a sense of 'supreme' about him... This gets him into trouble. Via suspensions... he tests people, including Umps. He is a bit like Rod Grinter, in his belief of self and abilities.