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can you PM me? I know he Had, issues, when he started years ago. But appears to have worked those out.

I agree, that watts isn't the reason we didn't make the finals, but he is one part of the reason we didn't, and there are Many. he isn't cut out to play in a contested ball team. he does not work hard enough off the ball when we don't have it. He plays as a small, yet he won't get in under, & front & centre, he won't fly for marks in the pack which he did do in U-18's. He is not fully 100% committed to this club, and probably won't be to any club. He won't risk his body. He is a mind only player.

No, they need him outa there, like the dogs & stringer, us & watts. etc. Some just hold the momentum back. They may play well in themselves, but sometimes they just aren't team oriented onfield. If the won't row the team boat, seeya.

When Jones is cooked from playing on-ball, & we are left with Oli, Viney & maybe Maynard in under? we will be wishing we had Rocky as well. If we can free up a little something with Jacky baby, I'd like to spend that on Rocky. If we ended up with Lever, Gaff & Rocky at the end of 2017, I reckon we'd be doing very well out of this season. Maynard won't hit his straps if he does for another couple of years. He may well start getting games next year, but won't be a topliner inside mid next year. He'll be a novice. IF Jones's legs go off early, then we would need the mature inside player that Rocky is now. We saw what happened when Jones was injured this mid year with his Quad. That, and other things, helped to conspire to derail our momentum & season fairly abruptly. Including Watts slow recovery. And the mistake of not keeping Pedo in the team rucking, around the time of Gawn coming back. We weren't ready for a couple of reasons and one of them is inexperience. Well Oli, Viney & Maynard are all inexperienced immature players. Lose Jones, Vince & Lewis, and we are behind that 8 ball again. Rocky could be a bridge between they're ages.

I know who you mean. Lucas. Just that the Weide is nothing like Lucas. The comparison is just ridiculous.

I think Braydon Maynard has done very well so far. I want to see the end of watts. I'm just sick of players who only give a part of the game, that they want to put forth, areas they are ok performing. If we are to go anywhere at all, we cannot allow players to dictate what they will & will not perform on the field. Hodge would not let watts get away with his sometimes efforts, over at the Hawks. We are too soft on our players & give them games when they don't deserve them, & that then spoils them. Particularly watts case, & many others, back then. It's time to clear the decks of the stragglers from that part of our Era. Accepting those who are obviously fully involved in our games & fortunes. I reckon JW is about a 75% man. I reckon Gawn is about an 89% man.

Freddies boy?

Grab a spot in the queue.

(Watts) Braydon Maynard, & an exchange of picks, just to round things out.

Let's let them into the 'G'. They can move into our spot, & into our old pants as well. While they are moving in, we can slip out and across the road into the Swimming centre. Squatting there, until we make it our own. But they can keep they're lousy Jail Bars.

That'll do, just fine. It's all currency, & we can use that currency to paint the rooms with a fresh coat. Something with a little Iron in it, I'd presume.

Make hay when the sun shines. We keep the kid. If he wants out in 2 years time, then eddie can payup 2 x 1st Rnd picks for him.

Absolutely no way. Tell eddie to waddle away, back to Broady.

I think Bevo knows exactly what hes doing. I think he's working to plan. He would have thought about this for the whole second half of the season. It seems he's setting Stringer up to succeed, elsewhere. With the biggest public kick in the Ego, he's ever had. this will only make Jake work harder when he finds a new home. Bevo will not, let him back into the kennel. That would be a message for disaster, for all at the kennell. A free ticket to party like its 1999.

Its worth the risk IF he doesn't cost too much, because of the risk of attitude. We can get him, but we don't want rotten fruit, going off in the Summer sun. We need hard workers, or he can rot, over summer.

So is this confirmation he's leaving us then? The last thing we'll see, is his hind Qtrs, I suspect. And the last thing we hear, the door close behind?

I think I'd rather watch "Hard" Quiz ! or that other bloody ABC left wing Zar-Chasm of Irony... Nutters of Hell, or whatever that is.

Oh, he's still contracted . I see. What do you reckon about Preuss. His numbers are excellent for a Kid. Would they trade a kid?

I don't think so Diamond. His mark numbers are too low. From the stats I saw the other day. Lots of hitouts & tackle numbers are great, but offensively, marking numbers are poor.

At 29Yrs old, he won't be too expensive, or he'll be too much? What would you guess, Redleg?

How many have changed their minds, & not their votes, on that Demonland poll?

Could we, could we? do a 'Cam Pederson', on Jake?

Melksham & ANB are not what I mean by smallforward-mids. I mean the Cyril's, the Garlett types. The LeCras; more your specialist old fashioned rover/forward pocket. Dare I say Bartlett? Those players who are quick, can turn on a sixpence, & kick off a step with accuracy. But must be able to run thru the midfield rotations. I think Melksham is more half-forward wing type. Can run, but I think he'd be lost starting deep forward. ANB is another midfielder type who can be a defensive half-forwward. But I don't think he's quick. We need to pick a small with speed who would be able to use that & his evasiveness to break open a play up forward. And then be able to go into the centre square setup and win footy.

I wouldn't trade any of our young guns for anything. keep them all together. They are the nucleus of our new club. Brothers in arms. The older less committed brigade, need be shown the back door. asap.

That's right, that's how we need to approach him now. He's had way more opportunities to buy in at this club with real Zest. The time is right now, to sever ties. Make it a clean cut, and move on with the list spot, for some kid who really desperately wants a shot. Maybe even a Fritsch? Who knows. The thing is we have stop stop being jerked around & move forward.