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Lumumba played his best game for the club. Just sayin...

Don't know why he wasted 2 minutes on the HB line deciding what to do with the ball when he could have bombed a torp into the goal square. I thought that indecision at that time was confounding.

That was a point as soon as he played on and touched the post.

What about the interpretation of kicking 15m? Twice in our defensive area we were denied a mark for kicks of at least 20m. Maggots.

I agree

I have seen an umpire standing next to the goal post and the ball hit the umpire. It was deemed a point as it had 'hit' the post. That should have been the interpretation today. Needless to say there were some unfathomable interpretations of rules today. Vince's deliberate OOB was a farce Gawn's ruck infringement was worse and cost a goal. Wagner was lucky not to give 50m away when he pushed over Waite..

How far away is Spence?

Great idea guys, A thread where only nice things are said and everyone gets a gold star for turning up. Its just like university these days where comments and discussion are forbidden unless you agree with leftwing groupthink. Enjoy your new thread.

Have those clubs won 2 in a row at any time in the last 5 years? Have those clubs lost in the manner that Melbourne consistently has against a hopeless team that had most pundits suggesting they wouldn't win a game this year? Melbourne have a long history of losing those type of games. I remember a sad day at the G when we lost to the Swans that had lost 25 games in a row. One of many useless efforts I have seen.

He is 100% correct and those who disagree have their heads in the sand. Personally I want to see more outrage at our situation to force those on the field and those in charge to take their collective fingers out and give us effort week in week out. As Lloyd says they prepare 30 hours a week to play 2 hours where they will be judged. How TF can they turn up like last week is beyond me (and most here). They are killing OUR club. The sad record of two wins in a row (if you ignore the last round of 2015 and the first round of 2016) is an appalling indictment on the playing and coaching group. They are lucky there are any fans left.

Grimes could play another 200 games and still wouldn't be able to hit a target.

Have you been asleep for he past 10 years Methuselah sorry, chap. Players go where they want and clubs try to get the best possible deal for them.

IS this game on FTA TV?

Maybe not for 60yo fanbois

That is not true. He had four seasons at Norf improving significantly with each one. He was targeted by Hawthorn to fill the role he is playing now. Garland did play well early on but something happened and he began to have brain fades and disposal issues.

You are really stretching it now. And remind me how St Kilda is doing at the moment? 3 GFs in 2 years?

This is the sad truth.

Our back six have to hit targets. Tom McDonald gets one more chance to play a decent game but he is fast becoming a liability with his momentum kiiling turnovers gifting goals to the opposition. Lumumba is the same. Frustrating in the extreme. And the backwards handballs started again last week. Killed off about 30 forward thrusts. The players have trashed theirs and the supporter momentum that had built up. This is going to be a tough game against an opponent we struggle with. How we play this game will dictate our season pure and simple. Lose by 10 goals and you can say goodbye to 40k members and the season given that our first half has the most winnable games.

I think they have to be genuinely injured don't they?

Hardly anyone thought that at the time. You can look back in retrospect and say they had a strong list. I certainly didn't think so at the time. Nor did the bookies or most of the AFL pundits. The were one of the 3 teams favoured for the spoon. I credit Beveridge with most of their success. Would love to have seen what he could have done with the Dees. No doubt McCartney gets credit for some of it but he couldn't do it. We;ll never know what he might have done with the Dogs list in the end.

Contract management is not cut and dried. You have to manage when players are coming in and out of contract and salary caps etc. You are never sure of the timeline for development on the younger players and you need insurance for injuries. Some players play well in contract years and then coast in the others. Not every player who is signed up is a starting 22. Terlich is another one.

That was 2008, 09 and 10. That is a fair while ago.

Sorry but I think you are completely wrong here. From memory they finished between 14th, 15th and 15th in the 3 years running before Bevo got there. It was no one-off dip in ladder position and a rise again.

Absolutely true.

I don't buy this argument at all. The start of last year the DOgs were a basket case. They had lost their coach, CEO, Captain, best player in Libba, senior player in Higgins and were around the bottom of the ladder. There was significant disharmony at the club, no-one wanted to coach, players dodn't want to go to the club and they were one of 3 teams vying for the wooden spoon in betting markets. No-one forecast their stellar rise. No-one. Bevo is a good coach and another solid protege of Clarkson. They play a system based game and some of their talent is starting to shine really well. He deserves a huge amount of the credit for their rise. On the other hand we are 3 years into Roos. We have no idea what our game plan is. Nor, does it seem, do the players. We continually get belted by teams that we should beat and have a serious mental problem. Remember getting belted by Carlton North and the Dogs 3 weeks running in the first quarter last year? Why does it take 3 years to implement a game plan? Bolton looks like he has already done it, Bevo has done it, Simpson did it at the Weagles and even St Kilda are showing what their game plan is. We still are floundering with what we are trying to do. It's a farce. And Roos has to take most of the blame. The 'consultant' just doesn't seem fully invested for mine. He has been flogged on game day, flogged at the selection tabel and is unable to get our team to bring the most basic of attributes - effort and desire. There is something seriously wrong. Again.