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Take out that 1 quarter against Carlton and we are averaging a pifling 11 points a qtr. 11 POINTS!

And you'd be wrong Our momentum was as a result of the rd 21 loss to the Sydney Swans. Goodwin changed the game plan, we went to Perth and knocked off the Eagles and we won a further 3 good games. Hogan was irrelevant

You could give him 50 yrs but the club would be gone within 4 Can't coach, Stubborn, bereft of ideas how to fix straightforward issues

We all know how this story ends Its written in the stars

You might be correct with the confirmation bias but since Rd 1 2018 his accuracy is 43% for set shots and 31% for general play He's a terrible kick for goal TMac is 63/60 JHunt is 58/58 https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl/shot-charting

Worst conversion rate in the comp and we are targetting ............ ...........the worst converter in the league What a garbage article

Not playing like he did on Sunday he won't.

Under-rated post

Didn't we have a full internal review last year? Because our game plan was so appalling? And didn't we change all our assistant coaching roles? To refresh and inject new ideas? We got rid of a bunch of coaches /assistants /strategists It has clearly failed. I defy anyone to provide evidence to the contrary. That all points to the Senior Coach who has admitted he doesn't know how to change things. Lets not procrastinate any longer. he's a dud.

Then lets change the midfield. If they aren't doing what they are supposed to put in Harmes, Brayshaw, Chandler Dunkley etc Oliver & Viney take a rest

He had a great PowerPoint apparently ???

We're 17th on the ladder We avg 11pts a qtr (excluding 1 qtr against Carlton) 11POINTS!!! Last 28 games, 2 wins by more than a goal We have our very best 22 on the park Epstein didn't kill himself & Goodwin can't coach

You might have heard of a guy called Luke Jackson?

Ha ha Dean Bailey answered an ad in the paper!

I think we desperately need experience. Remember when Roos spoke everyone listened? It doesn't always work: Worsfold has been ordinary for example but one of the major failings at out club is that we don't have a successful recent past where players/coaches come back in and help educate the new breed. Our coaching staff haven't had recent successes and when rookies are surrounded by other 'rookies' it doesn't work. ALan Richardson doesn't 'appear' to have helped at all but its hard to know. I suspect Voss would be much better the second time around. I can't stand Hird but he would be better 2nd time around. Ross Lyon is the obvious choice I guess but he doesn't inspire me personally. He wasn't great at Freo and his recruiting record is very poor but his first 4 yrs he won 67 from 87 and got them to a GF. Clarkson is the main one and if you look at his protoges they have largely done very well....

there's a first time for everything Roos aside we haven't had an experienced coach since Northey in 1992. Why do we keep going with untried 'flavour of the month' rookies? I reckon most coaches are better second time around altho I don't have the stats to back that up. It seems that experience is shunned in AFL coaching circles. Ratten has immediately got the Saints playing better football.

This is coaching and its pathetic. The running back from the mark is highly frustrating Its like having no one on the goal line. Or not manning the mark properly. OR when Tomplinson was kicking for goal last week with 48 secs on the clock - put the ball on the ground and stop the clock. Or when a Richmond player is on the ground and we slide in to tackle their head - free kick. Or when a player is targeted by opposition no one goes Basic football that you learn at school. Its so frustrating. We all see it in the stands or on TV but these geniuses struggle. This is leadership as well. If I was leader I would have team rules that shamed/fined players for breaking them. We have very few 'professional' footballers.

4th qtr 3 out of our first 4 kicks into our 50m were marked by Richmond players. Kicks by our mids under no pressure.

Sorry but this is rubbish. You don't get to AFL level without hard work and skills. And this is where comments like yours are mistaken. A good coach would make this team hum. Bad coaching confuses players. They don't know what to do with ball in hand. They take the wrong options because they don't play on instinct, they play on 'I'm told to do this and if I don't do it I'll get dropped' They don't trust each other, they don't honour leads, they don't run to space, they start playing selfish football. When players don't believe in or trust the coach or game plan their behaviour is similar to what you see from melbourne. Goodwin isn't telling 4 defenders to jump and spoil the ball but the message is confused and players respond accordingly. That is the players but it is the coaching that needs to be changed. The messaging is wrong. And another thing, you can't tell me that a guy who speaks monotone bulltish 14/7 can inspire players. He would send insomniacs to sleep. You have seen like me, many times when a coach is sacked and the shackles are released teams play with dash freedom and vigour. Witness St Kilda, Brisbane and Carlton after the sacked Bolton and installed Teague. Richmond were turnover merchants for years until they grew confidence in theor game plan and started trusting their fellow team mates. It's ALL about the coaching

It's all fluff. We're not even treading water. We're sinking, Before our eyes.

Yeah I'm thrilled. Grow up. It's pathetic. Your club is disintegrating before your eyes.

I hope the club reads this thread and realises what they are doing to several generations of supporters. I have been pilloried on this site by the pollyannas for holding Goodwin to account but it has been obvious for a long time that he is out of his depth. The players are deer in the headlight. No f*****ing idea what to do and scared of breaking 'team rules' or making a mistake. There is no instinctivess no running to provide options, continual brain fades of basic footy nous. There was effort today but the actions show a team that is devoid of ideas about what to do. Compare with a Brisbane that is playing with passion and a solid Clarkson inspired game plan. Roos gave us hope but he was really in for the short term cash. Goodwin was a desperate option that he fully supported in order to get out of dodge city as quick as possible. You have go back to John Northey for the last time we had an experienced coach. Why TF do we keep selecting first timers? Its clear we can't afford to have them learn in the job. The club is nearly destroyed. Well done chaps.

Yeah but there are plenty of excuses I mean.... Reasons

Yep. Likely no 1

North are going to be very happy with our no 1 draft pick