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Everything posted by jnrmac
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Our midfield has been pantsed by a 9 gamer
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Bye bye Tommy. You've been a good servant
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We look better in the ruck with petty
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How far did Reid run?
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I hope they are all sitting in the rooms pre-game watching the 2021 Grand Final at their home away from home And they come out firing. 6g to 1g in the 1st qtr would be good.
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A shame that Goodwin doesn't tag. Would have been handy on cripps or Walsh
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There's belief And there's the leading team thinking oh no they're going to run us down like they do every week to the other teams Self fulfilling a lot of the time And clearly the more they do it the more confident they are
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10 goals to nil at half time would be some kind of payback for 2018
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Kozzie would have gotten 10 weeks plus 3000 articles about what a thug he is Parker? Hardly been mentioned
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But Chris Scott assured me they were just 'off'??
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Gold Coast, 3 games in 12 days, 2 in 5 days in Darwin's oppressive heat, this one against 2nd on the ladder?? Did i read that right? I was assured on 'Land that you can't possibly win these games?... due to bodgie fixturing
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Infuriating. Why do umps selectively apply rules. Rule of the week was an in joke for years
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....more boring than usual
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WHY CAN"T TOMMO PLAY FWD?
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The Umps have no feel for the game. But I'm not sure soccer is a great yardstick, Yes they do it well but AFL has so many more Frees
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Bailey J Williams from WCE won 16 hitouts last week Jack Williams, a 198 cm 7 gamer, had 3 hitouts. Against Darcy Cameron and Mason Cox Their other key ruck Matt Flynn has been out injured. I dont think we'll have trouble with their rucks
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I see this all the time. Really? It's a 4 hour flight not an overnight flight in Economy with Air India via Delhi, Denpasar & Calcutta Maybe for a big guy like Max but Hunter? Salem? its not an issue.
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WCE DEES 2.2 Q1 5.1 4.4 Q2 8.4 6.8 Q3 14.9 9.9 Q4 19.12 (63) Total (126) 179 Kicks 230 157 Handballs 185 336 Disposals 415 75 Marks 95 26 Hit Outs 48 68 Tackles 79 16 Frees For 22 22 Frees Against 16 18 Scoring Shots 31 50.0% Accuracy 61.3% 2 Rushed Behinds 1 37.3 Disposal Per Goal 21.8 18.7 Disposal Per Scoring Shot 13.4
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West Coast Player K H D M HO T FF FA G B SC Rat Totals 179 157 336 75 26 68 16 22 9 7 61 1385 Tim Kelly 19 17 36 6 0 5 1 0 2 0 12 142 Andrew Gaff 13 11 24 2 0 9 2 2 0 0 0 99 Jayden Hunt 15 5 20 7 0 3 0 0 1 1 7 95 Oscar Allen 10 4 14 7 0 2 3 0 3 1 19 89 Liam Duggan 12 7 19 8 0 5 1 3 0 0 0 86 Jamaine Jones 13 9 22 3 0 5 0 1 0 0 0 83 Bailey J. Williams 9 8 17 2 19 3 2 1 0 0 0 79 Jake Waterman 10 3 13 4 6 5 2 2 0 1 1 71 Sam Petrevski-Seton 7 3 10 4 0 5 0 0 1 0 6 65 Tom Barrass 10 7 17 6 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 61 Greg Clark 4 11 15 2 0 4 0 1 0 1 1 54 Shannon Hurn 8 4 12 2 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 50 Luke Edwards 8 8 16 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 48 Reuben Ginbey 3 11 14 0 0 5 0 1 0 0 0 48 Elliot Yeo 9 3 12 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 48 Noah Long 3 8 11 3 0 2 0 0 1 0 6 48 Thomas Cole 6 8 14 3 0 3 0 3 0 0 0 46 Jai Culley 1 11 12 0 0 6 0 1 0 0 0 46 Connor West 5 6 11 2 0 3 2 3 1 1 7 45 Jack Darling 6 4 10 4 0 0 0 1 0 2 2 37 Brady Hough 5 2 7 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 19 Elijah Hewett 1 7 8 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 17 Josh Rotham 2 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 Melbourne Player K H D M HO T FF FA G B SC Rat Totals 230 185 415 95 48 79 22 16 19 11 125 1808 Clayton Oliver 12 22 34 3 0 10 3 1 0 0 0 129 Christian Petracca 12 17 29 8 0 3 3 1 3 0 18 124 Brodie Grundy 13 9 22 3 33 6 2 2 0 0 0 119 Trent Rivers 15 12 27 3 0 6 2 0 0 0 0 104 Tom McDonald 12 4 16 6 2 3 1 1 4 1 25 99 Jack Viney 11 11 22 4 0 6 1 0 1 0 6 98 Lachlan Hunter 16 11 27 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 91 Bayley Fritsch 13 4 17 7 0 1 1 1 3 1 19 89 Ed Langdon 14 8 22 4 0 4 0 0 0 1 1 87 Kysaiah Pickett 11 4 15 3 0 5 0 0 2 5 17 87 Alex Neal-Bullen 6 9 15 1 0 11 1 1 1 0 6 87 Steven May 15 4 19 9 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 77 Tom Sparrow 10 10 20 2 0 4 1 2 0 0 0 67 Jake Bowey 11 7 18 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 67 Charlie Spargo 9 4 13 5 0 1 0 0 2 1 13 67 Angus Brayshaw 8 9 17 4 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 66 Kade Chandler 7 8 15 4 0 2 1 0 1 0 6 64 Jake Lever 9 7 16 5 0 4 2 4 0 0 0 62 Judd McVee 8 8 16 3 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 58 Harrison Petty 5 5 10 4 6 3 1 0 0 0 0 56 Jacob van Rooyen 3 6 9 2 7 0 1 0 2 1 13 48 James Jordon 4 4 8 1 0 3 1 0 0 1 1 37 Michael Hibberd 6 2 8 3 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 25
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Season Rnd Home Team Away Team Ground Date 2023 R4 West Coast 2.2 4.4 6.8 9.9 (63) lost to Melbourne 5.1 8.4 14.9 19.12 (126) Optus Stadium Apr 9 (Sun 5:20pm) 2022 R9 West Coast 1.0 1.3 3.4 5.8 (38) lost to Melbourne 6.5 7.9 9.12 16.16 (112) Optus Stadium May 15 (Sun 5:20pm) 2021 R21 West Coast 2.0 4.5 5.6 9.9 (63) lost to Melbourne 4.2 5.3 10.8 10.12 (72) Optus Stadium Aug 9 (Mon 8:10pm)
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Its a home game for us this week...
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Have been thinking about the horrendous state of umpiring Here are my thoughts. 1. It seems to me one of the most contentious issue is players being given the opportunity to dispose of the ball. The 'prior opportunity rule'. Most seem to agree that we want to reward the player who gets the ball. But when tackled, they should be pinged if they: Do not dispose of it correctly AND IMMEDIATELY by hand or foot (ie drop it, attempt to kick or HB but miss) Players dropping the ball, spinning 360deg looking for a HB or going to ground holding the ball maybe should be penalised. The only exception I would make is if both arms were held in the tackle. This if adjudicated correctly would see players immediately try to dispose of the ball resulting in either: play on, a free or a ball up. There would be less room for interpretation 2. Next I would look at push in the back. Enforce the rule FFS. Players now do it with impunity. The only exception should be players trying to take a high mark within reason. The Deliberate OOB is a joke. Bowey was pinged for this despite being shoved sideways as he was pushed. 3. Throwing is a blight on the game. I was brought up with the rule interpreted as hitting the ball with a closed fist from a stationary hand. What we have now is an abomination and it needs to be stopped 4. Positioning of the umpires does my head in. Players are aware of where the umps stand and deliberately turn or throw the ball when near the boundary. The crowd can see what happens but the blind umps cant. As for Goal umpires wTF? why do they stand side on rather than behind the ball when it is going through the sticks? 5. Scragging. Just get rid of it. If you touch a player when the ball is not within 5m you cop a free. It will stop in a nano second. 6. The rules around Ruck contests are unfathomable to everyone. No shepherding, scragging, holding or bumping allowed. Just a clean run and jump. Fixed There are no other games I can think of where the Umps must run a half marathon every game AND perform a skill. Get rid of the bounce, keep the umps in Zones and allow them to move out of the central corridor. Have one stand behind the kicker when shooting for goal. Rant over
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Not sure that is right. ANB and Sparrow did start to get more control around the middle. My frustration is that we saw what Collingwood did the week before. Cripps and Walsh were shepherded physically from the drop of the ball at centre bounces. The Pies nullified their influence. We had zero answer. Stoppage is Carlton's 1 wood. 5 goals direct from the centre. Also our delivery into our fwd 50 was shiite. we had more i50s in the first half but Fritsch, Petty and Kozzie had 1 possession between them. Weitering alone had 12. Bombs away baby. No lowering of the eyes. Dumb football After the first 3 goals we should have gone into hold the ball chip mode but we had no other plan. And Carlton kicked the first goal of every qtr. Seriously WTF? You can point to clearance stats and say oh we matched them but the goals they kicked from centre bounce were critical
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Having just watched the replay its astounding how many times: Carlton players get tackled and simply drop the ball (looks like an instruction) Cripps throws the ball without penalty Cripps and Walsh are allowed to turn more than 360 deg before disposing of the ball The free against Max for hotting the ball OOB when it was Pittonet was disgraceful As was: Bowey being pinged for Deliberate when he was pushed in his side as he was kicking The JVR tackle when Hollands was rewarded for throwing his head into the turf Curnow pushing May into the pack before taking a chest mark and goaling. It seems In the back is a forgotten rule Chopping the arms is paid maybe 1 in 5 times An appalling umpiring evening. As for us. Fritsch is my most frustrating player. As good as he is he has very little intensity and can barely lay a tackle at times If only he had some JV mongrel Petty is way out of sorts. zero disposals 8m into the 3rd qtr. Weitering had 12. WTF? Our goal kicking hasn't improved (but Tracc has improved his). When Tracc was heavily tagged there was not help for him The umpires hate Clarry. Gets pinged for HTB and throwing while Cripps is Marine Boy with a 10m forcefield around him Pittonet never looks at the ball. He only looks at Max. That should be an instant free. At ball ups around the ground the Umps even said stand 1m apart. The players ignore them. Why do they selectively apply rules? We were cleaned up with their slickness around the centre bounce. 5 goals straight out of the middle. They kicked the first goal of each quarter. Why can't we come out breathing fire? Cripps and Walsh had over 70 damaging disposals between them. You could have written that script. We could not combat them We struggled to clear the ball from our d50 while they waltzed out of ours Billings is a poor decision maker. he is this year's Jordon. Stop and prop. Woey was really good when he came on. Sparrow was good when he moved to the middle but did turn it over a bit And for newman not to get suspended when Kozzie has been done twice for the same thing shows me how corrupt the AFL and MRO really are.