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Maybe that's why SG is optimistic we are doing numerous things right but execution is very poor When it doesn't work it looks a mess

Scoring largely comes from turnover. If you turn the ball over teams try to go as quickly as they can because it is harder for the defence to organise. It relies on running and trust in your teammates to support the defensive matrix you are trying to implement. If there's a breakdown in that, either because communication is bad or one in the chain fails you get punished. Its why players like Fritsch kill teams. They dont provide pressure or tackles. And it looks like the way we look look now, hopeless. Like players haven't a clue what they are supposed to be doing. Its why heads get dropped because the 'system' keeps breaking down. Geelong are well drilled and are patient. They have a lot of trust in their team mates and are content to kick it all day sideways until an overlap or gap appears. When it does they all know what to do - spread and run. The kicker often kicks to space for their team mate to run onto - a much easier kick than the hail Mary's we try to pull off under pressure. Its all a failure of coaching to drill the players on what and where they are supposed to be. And failing to drop players that refuse to adhere to the new style.

None of the above had a fair run at it Thommo was almost BOG v the Pies on Kings Birthday and was dropped - that is a confidence builder When you choose to bring in players straight back from injury and ignore players that have performed you kill selection integrity - that's Goodwin

Literally no one is saying kick the thing to an outnumbered contest

If he doesn't get selected just add it to the complete mismanagement files of Jordon, Bedford, Laurie and Tomlinson.

IN the last example Melk kicks to Spargo who's in a one on one against a cats defender. So dumb

Jesus Christ would struggle at Full forward with those stats

It seemed that way. We seem to struggle against tall sides.

Good post. We seem to get the ball in quickly - Goody refers to the i50s being respectable. They're also not with great purpose but just banged in there. But when we allow an outnumber it looks an insane strategy And when we have the three butchers in the midfield it looks even worse

Our problems are more fundamental than paying a high price for a troubled fwd that may not be that great.

You answered my question, thanks. McVee is a good story but no one else of any consequence has improved except TMac, possibly Chandler and up to this year RIvers Thats lamentable Backwards I would say Salem, Sparrow, Viney, Lever, May, Fritsch, Petty No mans land - Woewodin, Brown, Sestan, Fullarton, Verrall, Adams, McAdam, Laurie, Billings, Howes, Kentfield

But when you play a game that allows 150 uncontested marks to the opposition that means our players are chasing tail all day. That is incredibly tiring Geelong denied us the ball and we were forced to defend all night. When we finally get the ball back we are knackered. We don't play well against teams that move the ball around. And to me it seems we are very reluctant to switch - something we did a lot in pre season. Switching means a lot of running to space to allow the kicker an outlet. On the rare occasion we switch the play kinda stops because we don't run hard enough to provide an outlet Our pressure rating has been terrible meaning we aren't forcing opp'n teams to make mistakes/turnovers. When we do get a t/o we are not capitalising on it because we have such an outnumbered forward line. Our coach refuses to change the setup despite the entire AFL industry calling him out. Maybe he's a genius and it will come good but I doubt it. He stubbornly sticks with the way he wants us to play regardless of what the opp'n does. A Geelong player even said that in an interview I heard. 'We knew if we controlled the ball an opening would come up because they don't pressure us' (I am paraphrasing but that was the essence of what he said

If he is such a good developer of players Which players other than first year players have improved in the past 27 games or so?

We really miss MIchael Hibberd a fast lockdown defender with dare and mongrel Goodwin kills careers. Hopeless at developing players Jordon, Bedford, Petty, Sparrow, Woewodin, Brown, Fullerton, howes, Adams, Laurie, van Rooyen There aren't 3 players that have shown growth and improvement over the past 27 games (1st yr players excluded). Not 3. That's where our problem is. And that is on the coach And our leaders? Well they can't lead thats for sure. Word salad answers, no actions About the only one of the senior players that can hold his head up is TMac

Well done Simon. Great coaching FFS

It's because of him that players haven't a clue wha to do with ball in hand

Remember the good ol days when it was an arm wrestle in the first half. We would tweak some changes in the half time break and then steamroll teams in the second half? Dreaming....

186 here we come Goodnight all

Can't stick a tackle Dangerfield is a f log

Smashed in the air

Cats controlling the air They're: +7 in tackles +20 in marks Our disposal 58% v 75% Their loose defensive player is killing us Bowey no impact

Max now officially a liability

What's happened s to our defence? Max , Stanley is your man

Close drops chest mark Paid

We look too short