Nasher

I admire your optimism, but “we’ve got Neville Jetta” is not going to cut it. This idea is just madness. You risk introducing infectious cultural problems, for the 0.001% chance he might miraculously be cured of the issues that he’s been up against for most of his adult life.

He joined on Sept 27, but he’s definitely been here before; he referred to @Fifty-5 as “old55” in another post recently, when 55 dropped the “old” years ago. I’m guessing Range Rover or poster of that type. I could probably do some sleuthing to get to the bottom of it, but I can’t really be bothered.

@ding‘s little show was actually on page 188 anyway and this post is on 189. My view still shows the deleted posts, so is the true view of the world. Ner!

Precisely, dof. In 2014, he came second to Nate Jones in the B&F. The players that have gone passed him since in that role are Viney (2014: kid in his second year in the system), Brayshaw and Oliver (2014: high school), and Harmes (2014: self confessed immature kid on the rookie list, running around in the Casey reserves/development league). Tyson is ill suited to the roles we’ve asked of him recently which highlights his weaknesses and has affected people’s perception of him as a player. We’ve got a lot of significant benefit out of him over the journey though.

You could probably do something really creative and unique by dubbing him “Kolla” or just “Kade”.

It’s thoroughly ridiculous to declare the Tyson trade a bust because we might trade him out 5 seasons after the fact. He was a ready to go inside mid, who instantly made us better at the time. He might be surplus to requirements now but he was the player we needed in 2013 as the rebuild began.

Haha. It's been an intense week. Haven't even made it to the official trade period yet. Reminds me of that clip from the Olympics a few years ago, with an Irish commentator with no knowledge of sailing calling a sailing event, with the video ending with him realising that it was just the pre-race setting up and then the actual race begins.

"Early next week" according to Craig Cameron, to give them time to get a fair trade together, but there's no official deadline. The longer he leaves it, the harder it is to get the job done, which hurts everyone involved, including himself. He would have to have reasons for sitting on it, the most easily explained one being that he needs the Hogan domino to fall first.

I've always thought it was exactly that. It seemed to make sense back in the days when some clubs had state of the art training centres and others trained at the Junction Oval (cough), but now? Oh wow, you've got weights in your gym that aren't from the 1970s, and plaster board with no rat holes and... wait, what's this? A rowing machine?! Oh my God, sign me up now!

The epic meltdown in the proceeding few pages based entirely on the events in one poster's imagination has really spiced this thread up.

Depends on what you were doing with the rope, I suppose...

He was born and raised in Perth, but he definitely barracked for Adelaide.

Barracking for them as a youth is an especially flimsy reason when he barracked for Adelaide as a youth. I’ve said previously that I thought this move was 50/50 go home/go to Freo, who have been courting him since he came on the scene. I would guess (and it is only a guess) he doesn’t want West Coast because they haven’t spent the last 6 years trying to lure him. Or at least, not to the same extent.

I took it as a question rather than an accusation.

What would we have accomplished in this scenario?

Yes, of course his agent is going to steer him towards the money, that’s how the manager’s living is derived. Gaff is a grown adult though and can make his own choice. I recently took the lower of two offers on a property I sold because I preferred the terms, in spite of the estate agent’s push to take the larger offer.

I would love to believe we could engineer a trade with West Coast that would bring Gaff, but it seems like too many unlikely events occurring: - Hogan wanting to go to West Coast. This is part go home, part the fact that Freo have been in his ear since he was 17. West Coast don’t have a 6 year old relationship with him. - Gaff being party to this. He’s told North that if he leaves, it’s to them. He’s not going to backflip for no good reason. - West Coast being able to come up with enough extras to seal the deal. Gaff is the equivalent of one of those early first rounders Freo have - where’s the other one going to come from? - If not Gaff and instead they try to use their Gaff compo to land some early pics, it would take a monumental trading effort to get in to the early top 10 x2. That’s an even more difficult proposition for them. I like the posturing though. If nothing else it ensures Freo are held accountable.

Only the biggest of optimists haven’t let this dream go now though.

If it’s take pick 75 or Kent goes to the draft; I take 75. Both options amount to nothing, however one tells the footy world we’re big tough chest thumpers at the trade table, the other says we do the right thing by our players. I understand why people want us not to be seen as pushovers, but I think it’s misguided. I think not delivering the trade does us more reputational harm than any good it does. If St Kilda lowball us, they have identified themselves as poor traders and this will harm their future business. The clubs all have rivals they like dealing with and clubs they avoid. I know which club I want to be. It all comes down to Kent’s attitude about it. As @Fifty-5 said, if he gets in cahoots with St Kilda and says he’ll walk, we’re stuffed and he can have fun getting booed every time he play us. If he insists they deal fairly, we regain some power and we negotiate a fair outcome. There’s no point trying to throw our weight around if he throws us under the bus though.

Microcosm of society.

In addition to Lever we got back pick 35 (Harrison Petty) and our fourth round this year is upgraded to a third rounder, that significantly increases the chances of picking up an AFL grade player, or could be on traded this year. We got a bona-fide, known quantity star key defender, and a developing key defender out of those draft picks. It really surprises me that when people are asked which is worth more out of a $1m house or a Tattslotto ticket, people would choose the Tatts.

And achieve what? If he goes to the draft, he gets to St Kilda and we get nothing. We can go all Essendon and thump our chest and make big statements about not being push overs, but all that does is make us look like flogs and wastes time. They hold all the aces. Cut our losses and move on.

No need to resort to such tricks. It’s clearly Collar-da-jash-nidge. Easy.

He names terms if he goes to the draft, and his terms will be 3 years and the Saints $$$ offer. Pretty confident there'd only be one club interested.

Who cares. Was a delisting candidate anyway IMO, I'm still in shock from what they've offered him. Just sign it and move on to the actual business.