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Jesse Hogan is damaged goods because Ricky Nixon and Karl Langdon said so. Jesus Christ. Just... Jeez.

It’s concerning that Freo have such a rank amateur in such a senior position (or so it seems - anyone know his resume prior?). It would be like Mahoney trying to do a deal for one of our best players with their BigFooty board. It’s all based on some skewed ideal rather than sensible reality. With this bloke at their helm I’m expecting Hogan to play for Melbourne in 2019 now.

It’s honestly crazy, isn’t it. Two teams have a surplus player in their area of strength that corresponds with the other team’s area of weakness, so they swap. This is the most obviously win-win trade I’ve seen in a while. Preuss and Tyson would be playing against each other in the VFL next year if it weren’t for this.

North’s list manager blinked first, according to their fans on BigFooty ?

Onya Dom. Was an important part of the rebuild, and is pretty unlucky that we managed to build an even stronger midfield underneath him. Hopefully he can be a starting inside mid at North. Finally, some AFL quality Gawn insurance. I think many underestimate the value of this. Preuss won’t be intending to play for Casey though, he’ll want to demonstrate that he can support Gawn in the Melbourne side (or maybe even attempt to pass him if he’s ambitious enough). Really looking forward to seeing how he gets used.

I admire your optimism, but “we’ve got Neville Jetta” is not going to cut it. This idea is just madness. You risk introducing infectious cultural problems, for the 0.001% chance he might miraculously be cured of the issues that he’s been up against for most of his adult life.

He joined on Sept 27, but he’s definitely been here before; he referred to @Fifty-5 as “old55” in another post recently, when 55 dropped the “old” years ago. I’m guessing Range Rover or poster of that type. I could probably do some sleuthing to get to the bottom of it, but I can’t really be bothered.

@ding‘s little show was actually on page 188 anyway and this post is on 189. My view still shows the deleted posts, so is the true view of the world. Ner!

Precisely, dof. In 2014, he came second to Nate Jones in the B&F. The players that have gone passed him since in that role are Viney (2014: kid in his second year in the system), Brayshaw and Oliver (2014: high school), and Harmes (2014: self confessed immature kid on the rookie list, running around in the Casey reserves/development league). Tyson is ill suited to the roles we’ve asked of him recently which highlights his weaknesses and has affected people’s perception of him as a player. We’ve got a lot of significant benefit out of him over the journey though.

You could probably do something really creative and unique by dubbing him “Kolla” or just “Kade”.

It’s thoroughly ridiculous to declare the Tyson trade a bust because we might trade him out 5 seasons after the fact. He was a ready to go inside mid, who instantly made us better at the time. He might be surplus to requirements now but he was the player we needed in 2013 as the rebuild began.

Haha. It's been an intense week. Haven't even made it to the official trade period yet. Reminds me of that clip from the Olympics a few years ago, with an Irish commentator with no knowledge of sailing calling a sailing event, with the video ending with him realising that it was just the pre-race setting up and then the actual race begins.

"Early next week" according to Craig Cameron, to give them time to get a fair trade together, but there's no official deadline. The longer he leaves it, the harder it is to get the job done, which hurts everyone involved, including himself. He would have to have reasons for sitting on it, the most easily explained one being that he needs the Hogan domino to fall first.

I've always thought it was exactly that. It seemed to make sense back in the days when some clubs had state of the art training centres and others trained at the Junction Oval (cough), but now? Oh wow, you've got weights in your gym that aren't from the 1970s, and plaster board with no rat holes and... wait, what's this? A rowing machine?! Oh my God, sign me up now!

The epic meltdown in the proceeding few pages based entirely on the events in one poster's imagination has really spiced this thread up.

Depends on what you were doing with the rope, I suppose...

He was born and raised in Perth, but he definitely barracked for Adelaide.

Barracking for them as a youth is an especially flimsy reason when he barracked for Adelaide as a youth. I’ve said previously that I thought this move was 50/50 go home/go to Freo, who have been courting him since he came on the scene. I would guess (and it is only a guess) he doesn’t want West Coast because they haven’t spent the last 6 years trying to lure him. Or at least, not to the same extent.

I took it as a question rather than an accusation.

Yes, of course his agent is going to steer him towards the money, that’s how the manager’s living is derived. Gaff is a grown adult though and can make his own choice. I recently took the lower of two offers on a property I sold because I preferred the terms, in spite of the estate agent’s push to take the larger offer.

I would love to believe we could engineer a trade with West Coast that would bring Gaff, but it seems like too many unlikely events occurring: - Hogan wanting to go to West Coast. This is part go home, part the fact that Freo have been in his ear since he was 17. West Coast don’t have a 6 year old relationship with him. - Gaff being party to this. He’s told North that if he leaves, it’s to them. He’s not going to backflip for no good reason. - West Coast being able to come up with enough extras to seal the deal. Gaff is the equivalent of one of those early first rounders Freo have - where’s the other one going to come from? - If not Gaff and instead they try to use their Gaff compo to land some early pics, it would take a monumental trading effort to get in to the early top 10 x2. That’s an even more difficult proposition for them. I like the posturing though. If nothing else it ensures Freo are held accountable.

Only the biggest of optimists haven’t let this dream go now though.

Microcosm of society.

In addition to Lever we got back pick 35 (Harrison Petty) and our fourth round this year is upgraded to a third rounder, that significantly increases the chances of picking up an AFL grade player, or could be on traded this year. We got a bona-fide, known quantity star key defender, and a developing key defender out of those draft picks. It really surprises me that when people are asked which is worth more out of a $1m house or a Tattslotto ticket, people would choose the Tatts.

No need to resort to such tricks. It’s clearly Collar-da-jash-nidge. Easy.