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No he didn't, he said "we could go for a smokey, but...", then mentioned Watts. Besides, tagging him as a smokey doesn't somehow make drafting a known dud an acceptable thing to do.

I might've had some sympathy for WCE had they not rushed him back when he obviously wasn't ready. IMO they had an obligation to their player and they did not meet it. As for Cousins, well...

Maybe I should change the topic "Cousins arrested for being shirtless"?

Firstly, that's an unreasonable demand they would not have paid. Secondly, how do you know they didn't ask for more anyway? It may well be that it was the hard-arsed approach that meant they DID landed pick 14, not the other way around. Edit: Well put BB59

Haven't got the forms yet either. I imagine mine will be a Christmas pressie again, if not then I shall renew early next year.

I read the first line then gave up. Godfrey, Ferguson etc will lose confidence because Miller was retained? I can think of at least three things wrong with that statement alone, but really, why bother.

Happy with that. A player who gave it his best shot but came up short. Best of luck Ferg.

Which recruiter has been better?

Perhaps you could then introduce an "any club but the one I'm at" clause, i.e. he doesn't nominate a club and it's up to the highest bidder. Then it's starting to just become like the PSD though.

The simple answer would be to say that the player is actually an employee of the AFL and not the club itself, therefore he will play within a side chosen by the rules dictated by them. In a sense, players would be leased from the AFL, rather than being "owned" by the clubs. I don't see why this couldn't be the case, as it currently is "assets" such as club logos and merchandising rights are already owned by the AFL. This wouldn't really be any different. The most frustrating thing about the whole Judd saga was that it looked like he was going to choose Collingwood, and the rich would get richer. In the end he chose Carlton because they were able to provide him the most attractive salary package. Why? Because it would seem Dick Pratt's paying him and his lovely girlfriend in ways other than through the footy club, thus circumventing the salary cap. The salary cap is chock-a-block full of loopholes that the rich clubs can exploit, and the poor clubs, like us, can't. In FA, we would just see more and more of this. All the best players flock to one club and all the poor clubs rot. You see it happen in grassroots footy as well.

Brennan can't nominate for the ND unless he is delisted by Brisbane, which won't happen. Listed players can only nominate for the PSD. (Was that the question?) That's my understanding anyway, I stand for correction. As for the current list, well, colour me uninspired. I'd prefer not to participate based on that list.

Preseason training starts in a fortnight, we'll find out then.

He wasn't outvoted - drafting doesn't go to a vote. He was vetoed. Big difference. I'll never blame CAC for Molan.

Torney was a serviceable player who has now passed his used by date. Perrie and Bode's bodies are utterly wrecked. Definite no thanks.

I agree, his first half of the off season has been a success IMO. Now for the hard part...

Last time I looked at a "ladder" of team averages ages there was less than 2 years average between the very top and very bottom. I reckon the median age is a better stat, but even then it's probably going to be around the 25 mark most of the time. Better yet, numbers on the distribution of ages.

Thanks guys!

The Dog and Eagle trade seems absurd.

I have deleted 10 posts from this thread. Memo to the public: If you want to piss on Yze_Magic, please do it in private (PM). The rest of the world does not want to see it.

99 times out of a 100 blokes are delisted because they can't play. No thanks.

The same reason they have recruited Knobel, Ackland, Clarke and Gardiner before him, I suppose. Either because they like seasoned ruckman, or they just like picking up washed up old rucks with no knees (in the case of the latter three) or talent (in the case of the former two). I don't think they're any more- or less- in a premiership window than they have been in previous years.

I mean free in terms of what they paid Geelong. Obviously I did not mean completely free.

Because their rucks stink and he was free. That's an absolute snorter of a trade. Reminds me of the Walsh trade a few years ago. Just to put it in perspective, it's St. Kilda's 6th round pick, so it wouldn't be all that strange if Geelong actually used the pick. It's not that uncommon for teams to select all the way in to the 6th round, though usually it's the bottom teams that have just done a mass cleanout rather than the reigning premiers. By the time all the other teams do their rounds of passing it'll be more like mid 60s, which sounds far more reasonable. Definitely a nice freeby for the Saints though.

He isn't. And he's right.

To the 'aints?