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maccas right re times. 21 from when ASADAS time ended. Nothing now is done to suit the EFC, Hird, Players or the League. Ball in WADAs court, they know how t play there.

puts everything on a whole different footing

always starts out that way

I think Puddy Cat land is officially in the Litter Box. Can't say I care.

DC ....what worked for the EFC etc at the pretend court will work AGAINST them at a real one.

no not like Grinter...thats ridiculous. ...but channel a little of his moxy perhaps.

finally....someone with tsct and respect

Im gobsmacked. . Simply speechless.... ..... ..... Too busy LAUGHING !!!! Karma's a [censored] in size 12's !!!

Games moved on a little since Vagg

Divisive of supporters. My bad for not clarifying.

oh kum by yah...Namaste...sorry. Didnt realise it was a great love-in.In all seriousness though must we have unconditional fawning and worship of players ? For mine they need to earn respect and admiration. As a person..dont know dont need to dont want to. Goes for all really as im not looking to extend my social sphere with player buddies. I just view them ad players. Whilst at Melbourne 1 would hope they seek to maximise the opportunity and play to their fullest abilities.They are after all professionals ( i wonder with some ) and as such id want honesty in efforts. Col Sylvia was one of the mist divisive players to have ever found their way onto our list. There was the talented Sylvia, put in an occasional cameo, there was the Larrikin Sylvia, never far away and the laconic Sylvia who seemed the one most often in the jumper at games. This guy seemed permanently in cruise mode and all on handy coin. Yeah...lets build a shrine for the bloke..over to whoever can be bothered.

..sorry, no idea,; some bloke !

i tend to agree. The nature of the draft is bound to change, even more should the age be lifted a bit. Not sure it will be all one way traffic but smart clubs will use the sharp end of the draft less and better refine their recruiting via better info..Sylvia just highlights an older less informed era

sorry mate...easily 20 x that amount of players aren't injured for playing a harder game. That Ditch dude had a foot/head problem... Not a function of hardness at it. Ummm similarly Trenners is foot.....so predisposed to it. No buying it as a relevant argument ManDee there's right and wrong ways of playing hard. If anything some of young Jacks lamentable efforts at tackling etc will cause him MORE harm than should he go full at it and stick them etc. There are times for all elements of the game. I'm sure Jack feels he needs to step up his presence but currently that's at the expense of his normal highly prized skil sets. As though can't do both well at same time. It's for this reason I'd play him for a spell in the resides so he CAN hone and fuse these parts of the game, so they become more natural allies in his game. I actually WANT him to succeed for a complete Watts certainly adds to the pie. He's just a bit all over the shop and seemingly down on field confidence. Acknowledging where he's at and a path back is apparently "unsupporting" and laying in to him.j That's just nonsense.

as do we need to do it (more)

Colin Sylvia....add him to a list of players who enjoyed the ride and took the club for one. Always put a couple of good games together near contract time and then went back to 'normal'. A career at Melbourne of cameo teases and thats all His greatest achievement for us was going.

4 weeks reverend ? Thought Jack had a few more than that under his belt. We'll just wait another four...and maybd four fours for good measure. Doesn't really matter as it seems hes Jack the untouchable. All sarcasm aside its just as if not more dangerous to continually leave a player in, on the the reasoning of building confidence and establishing consistency as it is to give them a chance to do just that on an arena where they can. What some here are suggesting is it might be better to allow Jack to refine his game, build standards and explore effective physicality in the game ( in the magoos) Then bring it to the higher level. Seems the club is reverting to animal farm rules. Were not playing finals this year. We're still building this team. No room for favourites. This notion that everyone is there purely on merit must be lining up to be questioned.

not quite all it would seem

The Gus has a good technique..envelope your opponent and drop...using his weight. Is an effective way of slowing someone.

winner

I hear what you say JR... ol Jackie has a strange mix of attributes but quasi careless regard for ones self isnt one of them. Mind you few really come close tk Tulip in that regard.

interesting technique. Requires trust and belief of each other. Kudos to them both

wheres the line ?

2 things though a) No one disputes the Club administered *something* b) There are no known records to prove what was taken. A+B = worksafe-shlt

Worksafe is to Hird/Little/efc as the IRS was to Capone !!!