beelzebub

we might have someone better lined up. Im not fussed

Its school holidays....need I say more

Im predicting a stellar year from ol Harry. I think he'l lfind some of his old form and together as some of the list step up we'll be in for a treat with some very exciting and positive footy...how many wins?.. couldnt tell ya.. I just sense Harry is one of those infectious types...he plays well , others will play better. He's a well spoken bloke Heretier. It was very interesting to hear what his impressions of the club were.

Bernie to compete in Fox Footy's "The Longest Kick" A comp to kick the footy across the Yarra Go Bernie.....kick it long !!

Carlton will need to go after a lot of ppl..lol

i understand the position if say any pick or player is viewed in isolation. To be honest I view the whole period as a holistic event. We start off with "x" players and "Y" picks we end up with "S" players and "T" picks. Hopefully after the circus has left town we are better for it all. In that light I dont put the whole weight individually on trades and such...its how it all progresses and what we end up with. The whole draft is this side of a raffle at best. We have 'weak' drafts producing some players later on and "strong" drafts providing duds up front. bit like a cr@p game

true

of that ...id agree... its the other

I agree...still need more experience and ability in the midfield Any of those ( dread the thought ) could suffer injuries. Ones not on the park yet. I think we will actually grow some serious ability from within but just like a young plant you stake it with something stronger

wouldnt have thought that too bad for a VFL player

that is only your opinion rpfc. there is no precedent for knuckle rapping from CAS wont be 2years...im going with 18months with allowances for voluntary suspensions. Bans enforced from m judgement that puts them out for this preseason..next season and following preseason yeah.,.. theyre worth heaps !!

none are worth anything ...if banned

That's what you took away ???

was thinking of putting that up myself well done

nothing if banned

As to his abilities/potential...as far as that goes Ill sit on the fence. Goody Macca ought to know the ins and outs of this bloke. It's to the logic of entertaini the getting of a soon-to-be banned member of the illustrious 34 that has my head shaking !! I really think the club's being somewhat naive.

Im actually surprised 4 years is at all necessary...to get him to change clubs. Youd have thought anyone who had enough of that environment would jump at any half way reasonable offer. 4 years seems excessive ...to me.

WADA have previously stated that all bets are off now re the AFL. Theres no Backdating. Only an allowance for the voluntary suspensions already undertaken. People get confused its not backdating..Thats what the efc brigade keep pumping into the media. Thats what EFC WANT !! EFC and any club with a "34" will need to prepare for pain Its coming. This comfort or otherwise that many at clubs are exhibiting regarding the toxicity of having any of the 34 is quite frankly amazing....amazingly stupid really. Theres still this ideal of ...we're AFL ...we'll be right etc etc. No Ones getting a Xmas present other than WADA/ASADA Any comparison to the NRL fiasco os foolhardy. A different set of circumstances.. Different level of transgressions and culpability , not to mention they co-operated and didnt hold things up every 5 mins.. WADA were NOT happy..let alone comfortable with all of this. The use of comfort will be by some one pushiing a player/club barrow. WADA were decidedly disappointed with how events ran but decided to put a line through it all and call it a day. They have done entirely the opposite with the case of the 34 as the hearing on Nov 16 will attest. Even then they will not have finished and will be coming after the scoundrels who implemented it all If anyone in AFL land thinks they can afford any comfort they are in la-la land !!

Ive been super impressed with how MFC has gone about things but this trade truly flies in the face of logic. It's not about Milkshake's value / ability. It's about his pending banning. I just don't get it.

Nor can they be

Ouch

print it up and get it signed Red

on board ?About to be derailed !!

Id rather he stays. He has much to offer this club and i would think have quite a career as that here at the Dees. Is he that ambitious he's blind to the 'rabble' nature that is now Essendon. Im thinking /hoping that in cold light of day he will follow sense.

Unlike Bugg he's 1 of 34