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I like the cut of your jib !! exactly.. now the real answer must lay somewhere between tempering unbridled enthusiam for a youngen with the preparedness to try some of thses guys when they're warming up , and not necessarily a real red hot certainty. How many times has Sheeds pulled some kid out of the bag ?.. we are a tad too conservative in approach as a club, giving some players far too much lattitude on form ( Danners calls it unswerving belief...to others its just foolhardiness ) whilst at the same time requiring the young tearaways to jump through hoops doing somersaults whislt ol' yella snoozes in the pocket !! Melbourne must be the most frustrating club to be drafted to !!

At the risk of sounding heretic...im not that fussed ...( or rather blinkered ) to winning games at this point. Now I'll qualify that.. Given our dire circustances its not really a reasonable call to suggest we will win that many ( if any ) in the near future. Do we play the vets knowing that we will only ( any maybe ) get a so so result ? Or do you recast your lot and start seeing what some of the kids CAN do? We pretty well know what PJ can do... unfortunately not as much as we hoped. Dunn has shown some definite glimpses...lets build on that. Am all for Fergs playing at present. I would agree Garland is a bit of a ways off .. but personally would like to see Juice up the front at the moment. He does at least know how to play the sharp end. Frawley was viewed by some as a near "ready made".. ( but alas..even he's a casualty ) Sometimes cicumstances dictate opportunities. Again not suggesting all at same time.. but certainly my preference is to try some of them under fire instead of just giving an ol battler another week simply because he's been around longer. I respect the opinion of many that the season is far from over.. but short of the best comeback since Lazurus we really arent in the hunt for top 4 anymore ( if we were at all) ...My simple point is...do we bumble on...or treat this hurdle as an opportunity.

some semblance ( well quite a bit really..lol ) of truth.....spade calling if you will. We all run the risk at times of letting som eallegiances spoil our clarity of vision when assessing some players. yes folks...even the good ones can lose it..( the shine that is ) ..sometimes its gone overnight.. sometimes its just fading that inocuously that you dont really espy it . The image of the former champion is superimposed on the rosey glasses as you watch a game. We all expect a lot of very good players to keep on getting better.. but even they plateau out. Finks is right on the money here I reckon. maybe it is just a bad patch for Cam, but irregardless as he alludes th e opposition arent as preoccupied with him as they were a few seasons ago and lets face the truth he rivals Bennyfor kicking ability 10 m out. ( Id actually back Benny in preference!! ) Brad is waxing and waning. t o this punter he like other s ( about half the team at present ) all seem to need each other to be on song... they are like ten pins at present... one down all down. Only a few Brocky ..Bartram Neeta even will take it upon themselves to impact... Jones is even doing this. like our fav old lab...even ol' yella gets past it. We at MFC seem stuck in some mould of perseverance at all costs ( thats cut off nose to spite face for others ) .. The winning teams ( premierships ) are far quicker to be rational and cull those that arent quite firing on all cylinders any more. next time youre at the footy with ya mates.. listen to the ones who barrack for another team( and who carry a balanced outlook )....see who they rate at Deeland !! its really an eye opener...

qualify "earned it" ..seriously.. this is the whole point.. we can go down a long protracted path ..according to some rule of thumb..or if some of the kids have shown a little promise.. throw them in.. Sheeds would... Mathews does... they realise often timing is a cruel partner, but sometimes you just have to roll the dice. some of these guys arte playing Ok , possibly without setting any worlds on fire. When there's a fire you need water.. or do you wait for the firetruck ?.. you get it from wherever it might be. Personally im tired of waiting for all the tomorrows we have been promised. Some of thses kids are no longer 'kids' in footy trerms, they simply havent been given much of a chance because other supposed more mature, better equiped players have EANT their games.. like hell they have !! they are the ones letting the jumper down...give othres a chance to show something... worse case..we might lose...!! guess what...we probably will anyways for a few months. Time for something out of the box.....not the same ol same ol..

with all due respect Biz represents the past, we need to get some of the 'future' playing. play a kid or two.

well at least his flash thingy might relieve us of the pain of remembering !!

what IS !! what is.....is that its 2007 and we are heading into round 3 with , and lets be honest folks, not a lot of optimism. We have three very good players out for at least a month, a couple of players who wil need some good slight of hand to convince the selectors that they too arent afflicted and anywhere of up to a dozen players who seem to have awoken sans their afl-super powers !! Any of us have had a think about where we might be in a few months time and it sure aint pretty !! For me there are really two ways of playing this. First : continue along the path , the methodology, the style we are and plug the holes with like gifted ( sic ) players and continue on as best as can. or Lets get Jiggy !! Accept we arent goig to set the world on fire for a couple of months... and bring on some of the lads. ..each according to endeavour , enthusiasm and potential. Bring in Dunn , Newton, Buckley , Frawley...even have a look at Warnock and Neaves.. let the Fergunator have a run. You dont need , or indeed want to bring them all in and on at once.. but what are you waiting for sometimes in life... if but an opportunity to show what you can do...and often there's no time like the present or when the call goes out.."who's prepared to step up to the plate? " we often talk in footy about building for tomorrow..yet strangely all our games aare today !! The games are played in the present. How long do we wait for players to be 'ready"...what tell tale signs mark these supposed games whereby champions are born ? Are there special notation in the 'record' , today is the day for " fred ".. etc... No. There is only that mother of invention....necessity. There are never perfect days for improvisation, theyare just like others. yet the inspired and the brave will grasp these and make some sort of effort out of it. As a club , a team you either start assuming the victim's mentality and despair...oh woe is us. OR you get a little proactive, seize not only the day but each moment; throw a little caution to the wind and become daring. i mean ..what are the choices... play who we know and how we know...and know the outcome..or give some guys a red hot go. who knows..we might just discover something...or we might lose a few games.. Simlar results but diametrically different attitudes.. And this club could certainly use some attitude are you game MFC ? can you be innovative Neale ?

twas when good coaching was the norm !!

I'll put a buck or two on that idea.. I often think Danners plans get a little too regimented...and possibly changing up a bit to a more fluid game plan..and by fluid I mean allowing the role to move with the need. Sometimes defense is more about the man than the paddock he patrols.. Bell is an 'intelligent' player.. he should be given the largaise to go with the role. yep id be happy to see Belly on Chapman... i think he would eat him :-)

being perfectly mater of fact here.... tis going to be interesting to look back at this point come the end of round 8. Hope for all the world the sky lightens up a bit and the storm clouds dissipate. Have to agree Geelong without real ammunition is a test. By some miracle get over that and much can still be salvaged. Falter...and ...well lets not think too much about that, suffice to say Danners might pick up a copy of Old Moore's Almanac and start planning his next year !!

the major problem facing any majr form reversal...is the cattle.. .. the game makers are slowly writing them-selves off !! with our best onfiled and a change of fortunes...we have a glimmer... with some of our best and normally most reliable sideined...its not looking all that chirpy !! If the Rev has any blessed favours in reserve...now would be a really good time !!

BBP...was only lookig at the fixture myself earlier with exactly the same sense of dread. Im not even quite so sure we will get Port.. if Tredrea hasnt clisked, then possibly but if his curent form in the SANFL is a guide he may be in for a pearler of a year. The worry is once we lose a few then a win becomes harder mentally to atain. If it takes till round 11 to start firing its all over to be honest....thats a lot of catch up footy. But I agree...its not looking too good is it !!

thats because a LOT of bad does HAPPEN !! :-) No..the problem right now is a team that plays like a bunch of hacks ..i.e 'not-a-team' !! well actually they do...you see we dont take to the ground.. they do..its ALL up to them!! something I can agree with... good job we dont have relegation eh ?? lol AAsh... like Vic we're in a bit of a drought.. for ooooh... bit over 40 years now... lets just say the novelty has well and truly worn off... can we borrow your coach please...pretty please !! :-)

do i dare say it !!..lol sharpen the skis !! hehehe

lovely sentiments...and if this was ....say....talking about the Dees after our first couple of Nab games ..or practice amtches then this would sit ok.. But the season has started..... and we havent !! :-(

stategist /tactician.... point understood Id be happy with gnarled... doesnt have to be old per se...just that older school of thought....i.e ...we take no sh!t here !!...as they are oft to say..all the good ones are taken.. we may need to look at anup an comer !! maybe that style of attitude might be infectious !!..well we couldnt do worse !!..... often when the cameras pan to the coaches box after some silly play or such and you see Danners thumping the desk... I have this strange co-vision of Homer Simpson exclaiming D'OH !! ... it happened.. and it will happen again ...you just know it with Homer...and you just know it with Neale !!

pretty well spot on Astro.. . not sure I could differentiate between good strategest/ poor tactician though :-) Voss is a ridicuous suggestion... but there is a crop of assistant coaches we should definitely start feeling out. But the note about npt standign for any [censored] is right on the money....imagine our line up with Mathews... now stop drooling people... but for many that would have got the blood a little excited.. You just cant help but feel many of our players have the rev worked out. Thats NOT what you want in a footy club...well not at the elite level.... They ought to be playing for that jumper each and every week with the knowlwdge that its not automatically handed back the next one !!

alas you hit upon a point.. we do seem to lack players with that week in week out "certain something" . On a good day we have anywhere to upwards of a dozen stars buthose days are rare and far apart. On any given day the few that really shine are indeed Brocky and Jared.... lurking in the shadows is Junior ( with Bartram as a sort of protoge ) and the up and comer is the Jones boy !! we have a fair share of honest workers... but we have I feel too many passengers for a freight train !! as for everyone else it seems to rely on some alignment of the stars !! Stars !! ?? where do they come from, how would we know..... I have thought for some time that one of the biggest problems with the MFC is its tendency to play players too long, to not be mercenary enough. We have seen some genuine talent leave this club out of frustration. They were not allowed game time whilst certain powers that be persisted with the " I believe in their ability to come good " policy.. to have" undying faith in them " style. I'm sorry rev whilst his may well be a 'lfe' method and a genuinely good approach to people in the bigger sense, there is unfortunately a great er sense of urgency in football; it's a week in week out proposition with everything hanging onthe play that is happening THAT day...no good waiting til someone comes good in a week or two. Get the non-performers out ...bring the 'wanna plays" in. we are two and zip... on form and injuries only a real die hard would give up much of a show in the next 4-5 weeks.. dare I suggest...we restart the season.. think fresh.. give some kids a run...lets see who has a twinkle about them....

no thats booked for next month ..:-) sage words Jaded

surely game plan and implementation go hand in hand..? they are really two sides to the same coin..... part of the plan IS its implementation, or its ability to be implementated. If thats failing then its all failing ...simple really.

when it comes downto it I dont give a damn as to what Danners portrays to the media.. for me he is the coach. Its only important what he says to the players, its only important that what he says is effective and invective. Ought to be good when that starts !!!

it begs so many questions doesnt it. I personally think that whilst Danners adds much to the constitution of the MFC and its intelligencia..he is simply a level below the better coaches. He seems to have been sucked into a vacuous place whereby he thinks he needs to emulate all the good hings that others do withot recourse to what our players can actually offer. I wait with expectant fervour to the wise words of our beloved guru as to what went wrong this week...as opposed to what went wrong last week ..and the week before that etc.. .. I mean...there surely cant be a pattern to all this ? .. We probaly played a couple of quarters of dumb footy,we probably had a few players who were a bit off colour, we probably were a bit slow to react to this or that!! but its ok coz i'll pop up on befoe the game , crack a few jokes and all will be right with the demonic world. Hows the farm treating you Neale ? hope its a happy reunion

youre dead right Jaded....tis only round two... shame on all you Dee folk.. where are your loyalties... where is your optimism.. where is yor belief....for mine they all caught the number 18 tram .. and who knows where they will be after that. Roll up rol up all yo deluded fools ..those tha beleive that we will yet again prove might and contest the elimination final only to bow out the week later.. ahhh they are the days...such lofty heights .. if only all our years could be such!!! Today is simply summed up in two elements. firstly we arent as good as we think !! and secondly..the hawkers are at leat honest and going to give it a red hot try we're in for a long season...much rhetoric.. a lot of cr@pping on..and probably at least 1001 plans to rejuvinate the mighty Dees !! the irony is at least 775 of those are better than our current game plan!! personally I have infinite faith and will not give up the season till round 11:-) well...you either laugh or you cry.. performances so far arent worth my effort at even tears

aww c'mon...Danner s is a top bloke.. great club man.. his coaching knows no equal..lets sign him up before he gets away !! no for the intellectually challenged....some of that was true...some of it was sarcasm. end of day...doesnt matter one iota....does it.

i think this is great...but not for al the lets bash Yze reasons we normally have..lol.. but or the simplicity of getting that monkey off his back...its gone...cant be got back !! Now he can concentrate on playin glike he can..which when he puts his mind to it it marvellous. Mayb ethis will instill a new lease of life , a new sense of urgency...a new found mortality.. Now Neales doe it once...who's to say he wont agin in you follow my thinking. I expect Adem to have a new sense of earnign his place in this team. glad it s over...get cracking Ooze.. we do like you ...really .. well when you play the graeat Oozey footy that is :-)) I see this a s a great positive