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I dont think anyone is enjoying our current situation too much. I dont think there are really that many who actually hate Danners ( I dont ) . I also dont think our fortunes will change much without change and in this effort there wil be collateral damge of sorts. Its nothing personal, just practical.

Well we're in a bit of a pickle arent we.. I thought I'd offer up possibly somethg else to coment on. When it comes round to casting our net for new players, we like most clubs seem terribly focused on the draft, on the kids. I dont think this is either healthy or wise..i.e placing so many eggs in one basket...or one source. Trade hasnt got us very far...or indeed many clubs in recent years as that avenue seems to have tightened up a lot. One area that piques my curiousity are the other leagues...whether the VFL..or SANFL or WAFL etc...where there maybe some of these same said kids that might have been overlooked in previous years, but have gone on to carve themselves a bit of a reputation. Maybe they we late developers or simply didnt fit the mould or flavour of 'that' years particular intake. We , like all clubs , draft kids. We seem to take an inodrinate time on average bringing them to the game. In hindsight is it really that great an investment to have so much reliance upon a feed with no guarantee. Yes you need to take these risks, but could we not temper it and marginalise them by looking further afield ? I'd like to see this club become more lateral in its approach to finding players other's thoughts ??

directors can exert pressure...directors dont pick teams. So who are the seven not playig in red and blue next year ?

ive been following these boys in red and blue for near 43 years. Ive done my dues of following though thick and thin... well mainly thin..as we havent really had any succes in all that time ( sorry if its my fault ...lol ) . we all follow and support this team in varying ways according to oportunity and priorities. But essentially we follow and barrack for Melbourne for whatever reason it is. Tell me please where the quality or passion for a club is comensurate with any form of masochism. Why put up with just any slop thats put up before you? does one do this with other elements of life ? actually some do..and in their realm nothing changes. If you are prepared to cop medicrioty ...bully for you. If you wear disappointment and under-achievement as some badge of honour, then I suggest we have very differing ideas of goals. I dont expect success out of our club...I just want it. If inthe process of this achievement those that have tried and failed are passed over or indeed put to the sword, well thats life. They would have known thats the course of events should failure be their record. There simply has to be a point where you call enough as being enough.

some people may look upon it as someone losing their job.. others look upon it as a club losing its way !! i barrack for a club....not a person

you can take the same ingredients and use two different recipes with two vastly different results... probably just as well Danners isnt playing other wise he'd probably start at half time !! is it just me or does he seem consistently 1/2 a game behind ?

Beat freo ?? hmmm !! Freo have at least been reasoanbly competitive and looked like being in the mix. They have far more fit cattle than we do ( well...who doesnt ) and thats cant bode well. The only thing going for us will be its at the G....but anyone who doesnt allow for Tarrant at this ground does so at their own peril, he loves this place and the purple mob have been waiting for him to turn it on. Im afraid it could get a bit ugly.

We do indeed have a very strange situation at Deeland at present. You would need to be the most optomistic person on earth to think Danners wil lbe at the helm next year. And this is part of the conundrum as I have no problems with him per se...just as the coach. he is genuinely respected and liked around the club and indeed would quite happily shout the bloke a beer, however, his effectiveness has come to a crashing finality. Thats just a reality. Results speak for themselves. RR makes salient points. This must be handled with professionalism. The current MFC admin seem quite capable of this. Should we get to the point where mid season we are but the holder of but a token amount of wins with no chance what so ever ( and this unfortunately looks very likely ) of making the 8 let alone being effective with it then the process of change must begin. To wait until the end of the year whilst commendable for stoicly upholding the "honour" of the contract is foolhardy in its practice. Time as always is of the essence. There will begin a weeding out process along with a change of coach. The incumnats will need to have some opportunity of manouvring Melbourne into some position of gain come trade and drafts etc. This cant be an 11th hour 59 minute approach the minute a new general is appointed. He must e given some real chance of getting value at the end of the season. Danners must appreciate that his tenure is coming to a close. The ND era has not delivered on the rhetoric. Its been pretty well 10 years of standing still. I have no idea who will head the coaches next year but it must surely pay dividends for MFC to clear its deck as soon as posible and make plain its intention s to the football community at large, by doing so we may then position our self well in the orchestrations and "fun and games " of personnel recruiting. Neale...youre a nice bloke and thanks very much for all the things you did off field for the club, but even you would admit that the results are not what you hoped for. Its time for some new blood. cheers

All teams proud and bountiful All players tall and small All plans wise and workable The Reverend made them all Each little play we try and do Each little kick to you The Reverend and his mighty team Have failed to learn anew The lush green covered alter The Yarra running by The sunset on another year The Reverend’s made us cry The cold wind in the outer The pleasant sound of song The lofty cup of AFL Has been not ours too long With hearts and eyes we go and see Our hope is ever more The Reverend’s time may have come at last Its what we all long……. for Amen !!!

couldnt agree more...its like give a man a fish..feed him for day...teach him to fish and he's fed for life... :-)) Whether its Mathews or someone else.. i like the general thinking.. Invest in a coach that will instill a winning way..and we get much better value...and a legacy

i just took it as a couple of options...not necessarily at same time

for whats its worth it was kinda interesting to hear the thoughts of someone current in the game as to how they might use our blokes ( well whats left of them!! ) They're gunna find it very easy to make a statue of the rev one day....... well...he's already set ( in his ways ) in concrete

as good as Judd is....one man for a lot of money ...is not the solution for a team ( unless its the coaching job!! )

well Poyas used to be !!! :-) :-)

yep ...fully aware he was a part timer.. ..part of what I thought was a good idea... " band of mentors" 5 mins with Newman is going to be more insightful than 5 months with Leigh..thats just a reality. Newman brings vast experience and understanding of the game.. .. enough said !!

sense.... MFC... ??

I like this idea of shifting Aaron back to the back flank.. in polace of someone like Doggy. I suspect Davey likes a bit of space... gives him better chance to gauge the ball and the players in teh vicinity..and then he's like a falcon ..he's there..and nabbed them.. turned it over etc.. ..with his pace he can be at the wing or forward even more ramming it down someones throat ...he has the capacity to follow up and take the 1-2 and finish off as well. he will drown on the forward line I fear...he has the makings of an abolsute gun of a rebounding half back

i reckon raw players are like veggies ( food ) in that you got to pick them at the right time... and use them when prime...or they just go a bit off.. its like saying...we'll pick them in 4-2-6 !!

I thought getting Sammy was actually quite inspired... No disrespect intended to Leigh.. but !! we are trying to play in the same league as others arent we ?? <_<

im still not sure what to say to that .. are we back to raffles and whip arounds to pay for jumpers ?? thats just plain idiotic !! its not still April 1 is it ? (post aimed at the idea that Juice is our ruck coach!! )

yep !! :-((

unfortunately unlike some past occasions when we've faced enemies depleted.. we now have the handicap of our top two goal kickers missing physically...and half the rest just missing in action.. that my fellow Dees is a sad reality.

Redleg is right on the mark here.. we as a club seem to wait for some ...i dunno...some sign from god.. or should that be from the other way ( lol ) before we trot our youth out. It reminds me of folk having kids...waiting for the right time in their lives...trust methere is no such thing.. nor do I suspect at times is there in footy with the kids. Some HAVE the spunk and raw talent very early, but if you sit on it too long the shine soon turns to tarnish. I was very interested to see how these kids went for the wobblies..and they actually made a difference, they werent along for the ride. some seem to think many of us are throwing in the towel by suggesting we play a little more youth, rough and raw as it might be. Quite the contrary, we're actually proposing we attack, that we dont surrender by simply trotting out the same ol suspects etc. The oppo coaches have all these guys worked out to a T , why not do something a little less expected. This club loves to protect a losing position rather than risk the chance to gain a winning one. Like much in life in order to go forward and gain you have to move out of your comfort zone. Unfortuantely it seems the comfort zone for the MFC is to finish outside the four in the nowheres ..and end up with nothing !! but hey..its nice and comfy !!

ya know...i cant help but feel this is symtomatic of much that is quite frankly wrong with the Dees. Both the fact that Trav's attitude can be "his personality " ...and that the Coach simply accepts this as OK...or if not Ok..simply par of his make up. I know this will sound ridiculously trite...but as a kid I was told time and time again...'stand up straight...dont slouch !!"... this was not only a posture thing....but it was about your attitude..of what was basically acceptable and what wasnt.. and the flipside to this is what you as the individual expect to gain by it. Dropping your head is never a good thing for mine.. It just screams ..'giving in" ..( even if temepred by frustration ) When your allowed to stand on the pitch with hands on hips pondering what might have been...you've lost the mental game already and the other is only a matter of time. Not good enough MFC..

interestingly at the Hun's tipsters page ( online ) everyone including the kiss of death is against us.... what do we read into it when even Mr G Reaper cant put a kind word in ?? lol