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The real point is Demetriou obviously cant think when it requires more than two cells to operate simultaneously !! If AD goes ahead with this ridiculous crusade it will fire back at him 100 fold. If I were Roos Id line his Brief up to ask what exactlty do the league think they are playing at when they obvious didnt do anything about Carlton..yet home in on a non consequential game. This all about Demetriou and Roos not being buddies !!

YEP !! Id agree with that. Some are obviously a little better at this juncture than others !! lol

someone pass the beer and pies !! :D FWIW.. i think a lot of people are kicking points here without too many goals scored. My position ( and its only mine..lol ) Firtly ..we havent seen the whole game plan because simply all the required participants arent on the pitch yet. effectively it does hide it...but maybe not the over-riding intention..just a consequence. I dont think Bails it concerned too much about the scoreboard. What he IS concerned with is , is Execution of game elements. These arent going too wel in some areas and he's understandably livid. The honeymoon is over me thinks..lol As more of teh regs appear on the startinglist..then more of teh games elements wil be linked. This hopefully will indicate more and more as to how well the 'teachings' are coming along. Any team can get lucky on days and cobble a hamfisted win out of a game. What I see us aiming for is a system that when put into practice will result in consistent results. The system obviously needs tweaking !! lol. That Bails doesnt seem to be inclined to suffer fool or being taken for one is commendable. I think the club is still gelling.. the players may have thought they knew what wa being expected of htem.. now they ar truly coming to terms with it. Its still early days yet really . My eyes are on the hawkers game...that will be a truer indication...but still only an indication...not a sentence !!

ahh...now thats the "money' question !!!

I tend to agree... these matches are very much part of his training agenda. Nothing matters much til the 23rd at 4.40 !! yes.. i defintely feel a game of cat and mouse here..lol I think turnng the lights out was carrying it a bit far though !!

a thougt that just occurs.. . we all tend to think of the game from the players impact perspective. Im thinking there is an other world going on.. the 'testing " of coaches.. i.e looking for reactions and thinkings. That is..."if I do this...what will they do"..file that one away... if I do this..they do ?? file that away etc. Theres an old adage .."dont ask a question you dont know the answer to" do we have a case also that coaches want to know the likley outcomes of moves by their opponent coaches ?

what were the frees given for.. ..silly indiscretions..or a particular elemetn of our play that needs refining ? cheers

well three cheers for whoever struck the lights !! hip hip hip !!!!! lol Im curious.. despite the maggts being maggots.. what was nature of those frees.. Like it or not will need attention or you can bet other teams's observers are going to pass it along and they are gunna try to sucker us in. Same offence? same offender? a particular swet play bringing us undone ? Was anyone one player missing at time... (leaving hole etc ) How did aka get loose ?? who was (wasnt rather ) on him ? other than that... ..lol >:~))

I dont know what the go is with carts on teh G.. maybe 20 or so carts.. ferryuing say 40 odd champs of past years.. around ground.. terminating near the race.. the olideis could form a respective guard of honour as the new legions run onto.. one era celebrating the other.. respecting the other Lots of things are possible.. keep em coming

Im not suggesting it for publicity for the sake of it.. A tram is a roving billboard.. That in itself has merit.. many organisations etc use them. But its the positive knock on you can generate. .The opportunity for the team on board etc media shoot etc.. it itself generates awareness and publicity far beyond that which the original cost might achieve..its leverage !! Have no problem with youtbe etc.. go for it.. I dont see it as this OR that...as much as everything we can !! A dinner ..thats nice.. preaching to the converted.. its a warm fuzzy feelgoody thing.. wont generate any real awareness. A big walk.. nice idea..buyt how is that particulalry different from any game day ?? Hav eto be super organised to have any other effect.. but hey...its an idea.. Now if you could do it in a fashoin that from above showed the new 150 logo.. with media coverage...now thats getting somewhere.. even if just say 150 special picked folk... all the way from Fed Square into /onto teh G.. etc.. a little showmanship.. Starting to grow on me. Thing is if you could say get a slightly cheaper deal for a normal say Z3 tram..maybe for ( m guesing ) 75g.. get 5 corporates to fund it at 15 a pop..thats beer money to them.. worth million in impact to us..Is seen by Millions.. hey look..there's Melbourne theyre really into this 150 th thing.. yeah..theyre happening etc.. Creates a positive seed in peoples mind. We all know whats happening.. we need to preach to the unconverted.. Its just one leg of a stool possibly. A M-march..could happen

in true sales fashion you would use the "Get on Baord " slogan to pitch to sponsors too !! its really is one of those things I reckon.. it has the ring about it that it could fly. Its get on board with GET ON BOARD any cheaper for a Z3 or similar ?? big is nice..but ..have to look at all things !! But its as much about creating awareness and the impresion we ( liek the tram ) are actually going somehwere...like attracts like.. people/companies ( which are people after all) want to be associated with action/purpose/results etc. treat it also like a honey trap... it has more than one role to play is the point. top effort DeeReaming !!

You know..the more you think about it.. the more it actually seems like a workable thing. Imagine the milage ( pun intended ) youd get out of it !! Good bang for buck !! ( Im presuming) A 20t tram IS going to be in your face !! GET ON BOARD !! great Idea.. Make it SO !!

way to go )

I dont know if they have or havent.. a timeline for 150th !! But thats the point surely.. doesnt matter that the season doent start properly for weeks.. the time to start the campaign was months ago.. times a slipping !! It should all be up and running and in peoples faces !! part of the reason Melb is unnattractive is IT DOESNT BLOODY DO ANYTHING !! who wants to be associated with sleepy heads in the back row ?? get a little bit jiggy and peopel might want to play with you !! Its not an Einsteinian concept really. Like attracts like !!

youd think Volvo , Rbk iPrimus and The Aged could find a few scheckles for that one !!!! everyone wins.. edit; Metlink IS a sponsor of Team Melbourne !! stretching mateship a bit.. but thats what its all about B)

Get a tram decked out.. get the team decked out.. get them on a tram trundling round the city for a few hours.. get all the media there.. magic !!!! yep 2008..get on board !! gold !!

The AGED is supposed a sponsor.. well..they can bloody well stick a live logo link on their Footy banner head or similar.. and show it !!..You hardly know we existed going to Reebok's !! Channel 7 apprently supports Essendon.. sorry ..who again heads 7 ? another lost opportunity Tiger Airways ( Sing's little progidy ) .. have made Melbourne their home.. they'd make a decent contender to emirates surely !! They do fly/connect to China after all !! whats happened to our second tier sponsors ?? none shown on website. I love Melbourne... but I really wonder sometimes

heres an example of how we get it so wrong: http://150years.com.au/form.html Now we ( Australia ) are celebtrating 150 years of footy because ?????????? because of us..!! play spot the Melb logo on this site.. or any reference to us !! granted ..not much of a site.. but something reciprocal could be done...surely. MFC .,..... its not just "going to happen"......you have to MAKE it happen !! where ever you can !!

Funny you say that given one of the 'selected' who were approached !! lol Gardner role ISNT to run the club..its to facilitate those that DO. Yes it seems a few have glossed over what was the topic..lol Its just not good enough for club to 'go through the motions" of doing its stuff...it needs to get out there and create something. we just dont seem to Clubs like Essendon and Collingwood for example would be going hammer and tongs if it were there 150th.. you wouldnt be able to hear anything else !! The AFL want s them to do things.. they all but tell it ( the AFL ) to jump.. It asks us...no it tells us.. and we roll over. Nothing seems to have been done.. I say that coz Im not aware of anything. .thats the whole point. There is NO awareness. even a bloody tram decaled out for MFC would be a start.. If we cant afford it.. get one of the "connected" coterie type to get a company to ante up ( they can write if off ) People need to be talking about this 150th..to the point of didinterest !! lol There needs to be some excitement. Why should anyon eelse get excited and onboard if WE cant even raise limp wrist waving ?? These so called brothers in industry should have been hit up to fund a particualr project etc...but we see nothing. One can only imagine what Carlton might have done... berate them all you wish..but they do get things done !! Again the Chinese idea is good.. but under exploited.. its one idea.. we need a hundred more ideas..and we need them yesterday!!

Well we will certainly know by seaons end how well the marketing dept has gone. If ever an opportunity was handed on a plate..its this year for the mighty Dees. Some things for mine dont bode well though.. We dont seem to have taken ownership of this event and seem to be playing second fiddle to the AFL.. i wont mince words.. a pissy littel emblem on our jumper fails to excite of or ignite much inside me.. That 150 ought to hit us ( and everyone ) in the face.. not be hidden away in semi obscurity.. you can bet teasm like Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond would not be so shy !! Whilst getting a team in a newspaper article may help awareness it hardly qualifies as 'marketing'... granted it can be an arrow..but its not the whole quiver. Publicity does not necessarily equal marketing. I would have thought this year they might come out with all cylinders firing.. as such I think they could have held family day a lot earlier. We are supposedly making a big thing of the Chinese connection.. we could have piggy backed something there with New years...maybe even had family day around same time .. All lost opportunites Id be interested to hear how you mught do things Freak seriously The international membership is a good idea.. we just need about another 100 of them !! We dont have deep pockets so the MFC sobs.. well then yo uneed to box clever and leverage maximum effect off of others.. we never seem to do this. Excuse my ignorance..but is any 'one' at MFC charged with marketing.. or is it whomever is closest to the door ?

I have to say the new logo does nothing for me at all. It strikes me as the result of some namby pamby corporate night think tank after many should have gone home in the taxis !! There's no imagination or passion at all in the design...its all .. "oh yeah..we're melbourne...yawn!!! " looks like something churned out on a type writer.... in the age of computer graphics gets a 3/10 from me each to their own I suspect.

It takes two isnt my genre.. watch it if its yours. I also couldnt really care what he does in his off time. Having said that there is only one song I want to hear him singing.. It's a grand ol'.........

does anyone know where that hawks training was held? am curious also cheers

amazing how quickly some forget the season from hell and how it started !! Yep we started off last year exactly how we intended to go on...INJURED !! A little more prudence and a little more patience will reap rewards. eyes on round 1 v Hawkers...everything in between is window dressing.

its a Marathon...not a sprint !!