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this has any relevance ?? why.. what a ridiculous conclusion. They are the MELBOURNE franchise in the new Netball league Such sweeping generalisatons backed with what ??.. just your biased view to the sport. Ther are huge numbers in junior sports.. last time I looked they arent paid either, but they can be feeders for promotional endeavours by clubs to garner interest and attendance etc.

Well we now have two big hoopers who dont really mind flexing a bit of their weisght !! Be interesting if they end up as the bookends !! i'll be keenly watching their progress

As i understood it apart from some shared admin , training and some shared infrastructure the real plus were synergies in the marketing and cross promotional areas.. Netball has a bloody big following in this country. You can lampoon it all you like but its truly a lost opportunity. The following and exposure of Netabll in this state far eclipses anything League could wish in its wildest dreams. We have been well and truly gazumped !! bloody annoying. I would want to think that the MFC would at least consider a please explain letter to Netball Victoria for its actoins.

The point is.. there is every chance a smokey with some sort of X factor could be found in the PD or Rookie drafts. There will always be cracks. Someone wil be injured. Someone's talent may not be obvious to the vast band of recruiters who by their very nature are beccoming vanilla in flavour as the clubs ( well many ) seem to all want the same thing and are being guided by similar citeria ( Arguably much making sense ) But there are always those that dont fit the mould !! This was something our recently departed CAC was quite adept at.. picking the odd ones.. You dont always get a high hit on them but some are little ( or not so little ...lol ) gems time will tell but you just get the feeling we'll look back at this years drafts with fondness and marvel.. nohing more than a gut feeling....but its rumbling

the likes of Robertson and Davey must have lapsed your memory ??

supposition ?? or fact.. just asking. Collingwood will no doubt have access to any thing that portends towards Vixens membership and promotion. This will be Victorian based which is exactly what I thought WE were aiming at !! I applaud the magpies and can only deem Netball Victoria a bunch of turncoats !! I had thought Team Melbourne a clever and fresh effort with results based upon aligned Melbourne synergies. I am now starting to think we have been sold a pup !!

http://www.teamelbourne.com.au/ there for all to see is an inference that the Vixens are on board with team Melbourne.. not the bloody Magpies !! What sort of toothless piece of cr@p is teammelbourne then ?? its laughable !!...all fizz ...no substance !!

WTF !!! what a rip off , those slimey bloody filth have stolen our march!! Strangely i dont blame the wobblies but cast a glaring eye toward the skirt wearers and wonder what sort of about face they have performed. what a total joke team Melbourne is turning ot to be

Now i think in order to look at this objectively we need to draw a division between any abject lack of skills.. and raw skills capable of honing. Some clubs have fallen for the wonder of athletic ability whilst relatively unskilled. Some clubs look for kids who have some footy nouse... good fitness and a stock of skills without them necesaarily being silky !! Some things you just cant really teach.. We've all seen players lost at see. They just dont see th egame in the same light ( and pace ) as others.. but they have all the supposed required attributes, only in real time under game conditions it come to nought !! Fitness can be improved if the underlying physique is there. A football brain is hard to cultivate.. you either get it or you dont. Skills can be improved if you have the requisite co-ordination, but there needs to be a foundation. Ive been watching with not only geat anticpiation but curiosity as to who we would pick up. Now teh glasses maybe a tad rosey at the presetn but I cant help feeling we've gone for footballers first and fitness freaks as a secondary consideration. Even the basketballers have shown aptitude and indeed proess. Time will tell if the football gene is satisfactory. They say brain will beat brawn...so to will skill defeat blatant fitmess.

spot on. The only thing the teh kangas can hope for is time. This may come in the form of dithering on teh GC regarding the redevlopment of a suitable venue.. The process and signing off may buy valuable months until the fragrance of flowers finally permeates the collective Arden St. Cerebrum !! The irony is any short term success will actually be their final undoing !!

You can just tell this isnt going to be pretty!!! Nth have the passion and romance on their side.. the AFL have everything else !!! and unfortunately for the Kangas the AFL are in charge of the goalposts !! I hope the Brayshaws have plenty of panadol !!

Craig, Thankyou for your time at MFC. Thankyou for your insightful and at times lateral approach to the requirements of our list. Your work and efforts will be running around in Melbourne jumpers for some time and I hope you can look upon this with pride. You should. I would be lying if I wished you too much success at the Toiges ..lol , but I have no doubt they will be far the better for your input. There are not many that would have so freely shared their views as you have on these boards and in person. The very occurrence of you here has bettered our experience and I would like to thank you for that too. Nice of you to farewell us Come the 15th of June may you smile a little whistfully at the triumphant Demons and know of your part in that game A merry and safe Christmas to you and the Cameron family. all the best cheers >:~)) Belzebub59

no prizes for guessing who will get the G !!

yep.. and then the argument comes full circle again with the reality that the money from the AFL isnt so much a handout as an acknowledgement of the "oils aint oils' scenario Many ppl wont ever be members. Not all see it as a prerequisite to enjoying a game. To be honest neither do I. My membership is not used to advantage and if was looking at it as bang for buck I wouldnt bother.. It doesnt equate to any real value for the few times i can get to a game. I buy one...hundreds in a similar boat wont. Do I scorn them? Of course not. Seems some would. I have for a long time viewed the notion that a club sails or sinks in these modern times purely on the back of membership is a flawed business model and the sooner we ( as a club ) can distance ourselves from such archaic thinking the sooner we may actually be solvent without fear of demise. Money from memberships ought to be the icing on the cake...not the cake

I think much of the comment from Bailey regarding "they can step up " refers as much ( if not primarily) to a mind set. In the past we as a club , or more patently as supporters have been given the impression that any kids will come on later rather than sooner. it was a very very stifling and conservative standpoint. Our new Coach doesnt share that outlook. All comers can make a effort towards their destinies. Players wil lbe accorded opportunites on merit not a timetable. Its in this light that Dean offers the notion that they can step up in 08. They can , if they are good enough and if they ARE good enough why wouldnt you let them. All things in their own time, whether that be 5 weeks or 5 months..or a couple of seasons

Whilst I appeciate that many see life as simple as some ppl buy memberships..and some dont..thats a very black and white outlook. There area lot of people who might like to buy a memebrship but for any of a number of reasons they dont. btw.. a normal membership is more like 13.50 amonth.. but thats almost irrelevent. We've been over and over the various reasons ppl do or dont get a membership, but when it all boils down it will be where abouts on a pecking order a football membership is on a person's life list. There are enormous pressures on the average persons wage already and for many 160 might not be a 'necessary' but a ' wish i could afford' All monies gathered do of course help but we all know we have never had high membership by AFL stanfards.. and it wont change overnight. To be honest if our survival does depend on whter 5000 ppl do or dont join up then we are just as mucha basketcase as Nth. The larger revenue streams need to be developed and managed. But this is old terotory quite frankly. Instead of name calling those who dont...encourage those who can. As they say you attract more flies with honey. Im happy to call anyone who follows the Red and Blue a supporter

Anything the AFL says or does with regard to the Kangas wil have to be taken with a dose of salts really. The AFL want to spank the Roos big time for being such naughty boys. Im sure Brayshaw wasnt naieve enough to think it was going to be straightforward and now he's in for the scorn and retribution. The Roos are an awkward one for the AFL because of that very shareholder setup so they have a vested interest in 'redeveloping' it !! I sense we havent seen much yet ..these are just opening salvos !!

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,2...4-23211,00.html The Saga continues with North Chief Executive chucking it in for "personal reasons " Take that as a huge vote of NO confidence in the future aspirations of the North at Arden St brigade !! Are these the first cracks ?

you certainly get the impression from the vid that he has his head screwed on the right way... A marrvellous attitude !! A few others could do with such an inusion !!

thanks KJ that boy can run ...sheesh.. Between Aussie and Aaron evryone will be hearing footsteps. probably no guessing who's the new house guest at the Davey's ?? lol Definitely worth a few trips to TBO for him alone

I suppose it's an annual labour of sorts. We sit back as Demon devotees and salivate at announcement of this or that. We hang on many a throw away quip !! We hunger for any morsel that might remotely epitomise the foretelling of our deserved desserts. We do it every year. Then we wait, watch and waiver. False dawns are penny a pound it would seem. So ought we be more reserved this time ? Should we contain our annual excitement at the prosepcts of the coming year ? Do we await the report card of yet another season that might have been save for another bout of unexplained and damning misfortune ? I say NO and here's why.... I genuinely feel that the club ..from the top down and bottom up is quite frankly fed up with our plight. More the point as a club we are no longer sitting on any laurels and just awaiting things to happen. There's been a slow and steady turning of the ship. The bow is pointing the right way. Together with this is an almost wholesale change of crew. We thank the predecessors for their efforts but acknowledge they didnt get the job done as a whole either. On the bridge our course will now be charted by Dean Bailey. You sense there is absolutely no nonsense about this bloke. He seems a Thinker as well as a Doer. I dont anticipate being caught out on game day any more. In the ranks we have some new blood. The make up is from both the lil' wet behind the ears types to those who have already seen battle at different theatres of footy war. The addition of these lads will no doubt relieve those who have had to slog for too many minutes a game and at the same time the nuance of the gentle threat of the new kids in town might give some the giddy up they have needed and posibly wanted. Seasoned campaigners will now feel they can go out fighting and know that the shop will be minded come time to hang up the apron.. That last charge...that last Hurrah !! awaits. Whilst never a Dads Army our beloved Dees have succumbed to some strange orchestrations over the times leaving many a watcher wondering just who was the enemy. The new General is a litlel more battle hardened and savours more the 'smell of a footy club " than any brandishing of sermons and the belief in divinations from above. After all we do hail from that other place and as such a little heat will prove more beneficial. We wont want for heat either . The playing list is on notice is perform or perrish. Just about every position is up for grabs. Sloth and serpitude no longer tolerated. That it is a momentus time in our clubs history can only add to the impetus. It wont be the cause of action but a flag held high as those warriors engage their destinies. So I await season 08 , not with fanciful illusions of footy fate but with genuine expectations that those taking to the field in Red and Blue do so not only so as to equit of themselves well but to do so with genuine menace and ability. it will be so at anyone's folly to disrespect the Bailey Boys !! You can just feel the winds changing.... something Winning this way comes !!

a big number like 44 needs a big boy... give it to Jake !!

oh..a p.s. for those who wanted some "X" factor. watch the likes of Magic Maric and Aussie Aussie Aussie in years to come Have a notion Morton might be that classy winger we need too cant wait for 08 !!

Well.. Im fairly pleased with all that lot We now seem fairly balanced. the existing team is boosted with the potential of the new kids. It will obviously take time for some to come through but we seem to have addressed areas many thought a concern. Some height and speed is added to the back line. Some new rucks are added to the developmental group. And some serious potential is also put into the forward line. As they say it wont happen overnight but if even half these "budding' talents come to fruition we have a fairly good looking team. Well done MFC go Dees !!

This is the new look listing for the Mighty Dees.. annotations made as to their status for 2008 Clint Bartram Matthew Bate Daniel Bell Jace Bode Cameron Bruce Simon Buckley Nathan Carroll Kyle Cheney - draftee 2008 Aaron Davey Lynden Dunn James Frawley Colin Garland Brad Green Jack Grimes - draftee 2008 Ben Holland Mark Jamar Chris A. Johnson Paul A. Johnson Nathan Jones Addam Maric - draftee 2008 Stefan Martin - draftee 2008 James McDonald Brock McLean Tom McNamara - draftee 2008 John Meesen - via trade Brad Miller Brent Moloney Cale Morton - draftee 2008 David Neitz Michael Newton Ricky Petterd Jared Rivers Russell Robertson Jake Spencer - rookie 2008 Colin Sylvia Shane Valenti - rookie 2008 Matthew Warnock Isaac Weetra Paul Wheatley Matthew Whelan Jeff White Austin Wonaeamirri - rookie 2008 Adem Yze Trent Zomer -rookie 2008 Well Ooze is no long "bottom " of the list..lol You'd think we ought to be able to play a decent game or two with that lot