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And while we're at it, why don't men always wear a hat when outside? Make it mandatory! Plus women are only allowed to wear dresses or skirts, never any pants. Don't disagree with the sentiment, as the sound of advertising is revolting and blaring, but it's a bit Romney-esque. Private individuals can't dictate how a private organisation presents itself, if you don't like it don't go.

Ben-hur, you've just nailed my feelings about Watts to a tee. Tapscott I hope will play a lot of football for the Dees, but I have very little faith.

I see him more as Josh Hunt than Paul Chapman. Chappy is a star; would be thrilled if Tapacott got to his level.

Shame, his attitude and application were outstanding. Couldn't kick but. Such a shame he never got to play finals - that ankle injury in 06 was such a terrible way to end what had been a terrific first season.

Caroline Wilson is doing her job.

rounds 1, 4, 7, 14, 19, 20 and 23 are all eminently winnable.

5-8 wins should be the minimum.

Don't expect us to be involved much in the 2013 draft. Hope we hold into pick #4 this year - the timing of these latest revelations and the thoroughness of the AFL's investigation may see that happen. Next year we're stuffed. It may even impact 2014. We're looking at years in the wasteland. Viney and Hogan will need to every bit as elite as they're touted to be, as there won't be anyone else of a commensurate age and talent level to help them.

seems like it. what a thoroughly depressing state of affairs.

yeah, we're in for a world of trouble. just as well we traded all our draft picks, cos we might not have any left in 2012. i was thinking we'd cop the fine in 2013, but it might even be we lose pick 4 this year. we're in big, big trouble.

we'll cop a whack for it. i've never doubted that. it's just a matter of how big that whack is going to be. fingers crossed it's not as big as i think it might end up being (excluded from first two rounds of the 2013 draft - that's just a rough guess).

yep, would be very happy with that as an end-result. it'd make the trade period go from a 'c' to a 'b' in my view. we gave away gys and morton for far, far too little in my view.

Morton for two fat ladies would have to be the worst deal ever offered up, especially when we'll still be paying him!

wow, to north! lucky buggers. cook is sensational.

best ceo in the business! (no idea what this has to do with anything.)

surely that article by gleeson in the age can't be right. pick 88 AND we pay part of his salary? has the mfc gone completely mad?

Hoping you mean 'Jamar (get ON the ground)' He's spent far too long on the sidelines of late

older players - sylvia, jamar, clark younger players - trengove, blease, watts new players - dawes, pick #4, viney

top bloke, really rate him as a person and an experienced trainer and hard-worker who gets the best out of himself. i hope we pick up surjan too. hard-nosed, tough-as-nail defender whose disposal is usually fairly clean.

thread delivers. well done chook in perth.

If we can get to 8 wins I'll be pleased. However, if we suffer a succession of floggings as part of 14 losses I'll be extremely unimpressed. I just want to see more of that c word.

That Tom Scully would be our Chris Judd.

Absolutely in terms of the quality of player, but it comes down to contract length and monetary value. Chaplin signed a four year deal on good coin; Riv a 2 year deal on lesser money per year. So Chaplin is 'worth' more.

Absolutely in terms of the quality

oh, and good luck to him at the cattery. really want to see riv playing finals footy. hopefully the dees will be there in 2013, but i think he'd be a certainty if fit to see september action with geelong in 2013.