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This. I don’t know why we persist for so long with players that clearly will not make it and will always be depth at best

Disturbing. Waiting the year for free agency is looking better and better in hindsight. Can say I wasn’t keen at the time, though we didn’t know how badly this year would start (and that Moore would come back and play so well for the pies making May less of a need for them).

Mitch Cleary is reporting 23 on track for captains run this morning. Team last week plus stretch and both wagners, minus may and sparrow

Agreed. They have been very good. I’m amazed Richmond are this close

Any footage?

Freo’s improvement is a surprise but otherwise this was predictable. North recruited very well. Collingwood were decimated (by north) and Brisbane not far behind. Carlton were weak last year and haven’t substantially improved. I suspect conference A will win both semi finals fairly comfortably when we get to that stage

Presumably they will be booted

Got a bit of a Viney look to him. Like it!

Exactly. Player managers like their players to get to the clubs they want to go to. Watch WCE get Kelly in with a minimum of fuss

Pick 5 and 11 for Hogan and pick 36 Freo then send 23 and 36 to GWS for Lobb

Would he want to go to a bottom 2/3 side...?

I re-watched the first quarter of the prelim this afternoon (first time since live) and Tyson was deplorable. He needs to go. He is an inside midfielder only. We have other depth in that area. There is no need to hang onto him and we could get a pick in the 30s back (as he’s still young and a decent inside mid). Get it done

Nothing less than picks 5 and 10 will be acceptable

By my calculations, Hogan is NOT a free agent at the end of next year. Can anyone confirm?

Interesting that our umpires won’t be doing the GF. Suspect that the failure to reverse after McGovern hit Viney and the ridiculous protected area 50 against Oliver (who was doing exactly what you are supposed to do in that situation) may have cost them

Definitely agree on point 1. We need some wings with pace. Fritsch, Stretch and Hunt are probably the only current options on the list. Must go to the draft on this. A quick small forward is also essential in this trade/draft period

Umpires took the momentum from us and handed it too them on a platter in that second quarter. We were killed by our lack of a recognised ruckman. Big need this off season. Fingers crossed for Preuss

Some fairly irrational responses here. I get you’re hurting but seriously. Hunt was good early, tried to take the game on and was under pressure every time he went near it. A good preseason and regaining some confidence will do a lot for him. Keilty and Petty were solid, including a huge impact early. JKH was excellent early but faded. Garlett poor. McKenna unsighted. Bernie tried but has called it at the right time. Pedo was Pedo. JWagner quiet. Tim Smith contributed. Bugg fought all game but struggled to have a big impact. Fritsch showed his talent and one of the few to continue to take the game on (though can’t understand why they think he’s a defender).

Plenty of room at Fed square

Zac Clarke as late pick or rookie could be a good backup for Gawn

Why not 10 and 20 for lever?

Next year is a superdraft. Must not trade that pick

If it's under control it shouldn't have any effect.

You can get quality without giving up quality. We aren't going to get lever for 10 and a pack of chips. Tyson is replaceable with Maynard who hardly played this year and looks like being a similar style of ball magnet. Yes, we need more midfielders but we are very strong inside and rather need outside class and speed (which Tyson does not provide). He's a good but limited player in an area where we are well served. Btw, belittling what is a reasonable suggestion reflects idiocy towards you, not me. Thinking that Tyson's deficiencies can be fixed easily adds a bit of delusion to that too.

The main point I'm trying to make though is that I think Tyson and 10 is a reasonable trade for Lever (and something small back) and that Adelaide should take it if Tyson can be exchanged for something reasonable. He'd be worth an early second round pick (late first at a stretch) I would have thought.