drdrake

Blame paul roos, these are the type of players he wanted contested players. We loaded up on them the issue we have is we will the footy but turn it over because we have poor disposl skills

That Oliver turnover just summed up the game. We lose games by turnovers, i say this every week all our opponents need to do is sit across our half forward and we will kick it to you. We dont have the foot skills to play a 4 or 5 man forward line

They should drive the buses make these blokes soul search on an overnight bus trip to Sydney

This could be 100points

Stop pushing forwards into the midfield go one on one in our forward line. We need to stop Richmond attacking of half back.

Hopefully some of our senior players stay home. Move May forward

Can someone remind me the reasoning behind our forward line. It isn't forward pressure ball goes in straight out score

We have played 2-3 quarters of decent football for the entire season to date, we have massive issues our mids are slow and have big issues kicking the football. The reason why we bomb it long is we don't have the confidence in hitting a target 20-30m away and we would rather bomb it to a 3 on 1, 50m away.

We are tanking for North Melbourne

And that is why we have drafted Jackson, a Grundy clone with a better leap. Would love for the club to back the kid and let him have a run around the MCG, let Max Ruck 60% and push deep forward 35%, Jackson 40% Ruck and deep forward. At least then we have tall targets deep.

Unless there is a dramatic turn around in Co-vid numbers I doubt this season will go ahead. A selfish few that couldn't follow rules are going to stuff it up for all return to sport and more importantly the Victorian economy.

I thought we were playing Freo in Melbourne anyway? The AFL know that the WA teams, Geelong and Collingwood need to go into 14 days quarantine once they arrive in WA. Good chance we will head to QLD as we haven't played the 2 sides up there as yet, plus we can play the SA sides up there as well.

That would have to be the most boring game of football I've seen. It was 2 teams that had such a great fear of losing that they didn't give themselves a chance to win the game. Defensive mindsets both sides, it was just ugly. Our issues, to many underdone players. Are we looking at 2020 to be a development year to see who is in our best 22. Bennell would have offered more in 65% game time that most our players. A lot of posters have already covered this, outside Pickett(developing) and Petracca we have a D grade players up forward. It is a massive concern for now and the future we don't have a player on our list that can play as an influential key forward, we have a fleet of midsize forwards that are irrelevant due the their ability and more important they way we play. We can't bomb into our forward line if we don't have the talls to bring it to ground and more importantly the smalls to keep it in there. I'm assuming that is our plan, use the small mid forwards to keep the ball inside our forward 50m arc any score through pressure, the issue is we don't lay many tackles inside 50, we don't keep the ball in there, why our forwards push so high up the ground when we get the ball inside 50, it is always a 3 V 1 and it comes straight back out. Every team knows this and lets us push forwards into our mid field as they know we will turn it over going forward and they can attacked from their defensive 50m arc. Our forwards/Mids don't work hard enough to protect the fat side of the ground and really they are stuffed because they work so hard winning the ball just to see it come straight back out. An idea, lets try winning a game by having our forwards play forward, I loved the Daniher years as this was his game style if you kick 14 goals we will kick 15 goals, simple win by high scoring, attacking football back your mids and defenders, to win the football and your forwards to score. I would rather lose playing attacking football than the way we have lost over the past 2 years.

The country and state are going into massive debt to get through Co-vid, I'm sure giving AFL clubs large sums of cash for training facilities is extreme low on their priority list. Unless of course your are Geelong/Hawthorn or Collingwood. Giving Melbourne money won't win anybody an election or even a seat at Federal or State level and that is all it is about.

So lets stop picking him for the player he was.

No Tom isn't a Gun, he is a bloke that had a good season and was almost out the door, he found life going forward but hasn't fired a shot for since 2018. The big concern is marking, he always has been a good contested mark, now he just can't grab them and is being pushed off the ball to easy. We put all our eggs in the 2018 finals combination of Weid and TMac, we have no developing tall forwards at our Club, Jackson will be a ruck not forward, even Petty is a defender that we are trying to do a Tmac with and make him a forward.

Can we have an intraclub at the mcg

On the top point, our game plan is to push a forward into our midfield. We play a 5 even 4 man forward line to have more players around the contest. The issue is as and has been for since Neitz Retired, we don't have a dominant key forward that demands opposition players attention. Tmac was getting smashed one on one, to the point he wasn't even bringing the ball to ground he was getting out marked. When you don't have that dominating forward the spare defenders just need to worry about positioning and not helping to stop. Second point, you expect him to lose his first couple of contests but their ruckman basically rucked the whole game, we could have used Jackson to run him off his legs, that is what we drafted him for his running ability basically a midfielder that rucks.

To me our first quarter was based around fast ball movement with high pressure, after that we went into slow ball movement and pressure dropped off. Slow ball movement just allows your opposition to set up in front of the ball. When that happens the good sides have the ability to move the ball and make the defensive team to shift, they keep doing this until they find a hole in the defensive trap. Issue we have when we try to control the ball we usually turn it over across half back or the middle of the ground, once that happens you will get scored against. Big concern for me is we dominated whilst we controlled the clearances as soon as that balanced out we couldn't score. I don't know why Jackson wasn't used in more centre bounces, something different a bloke that cab jump over you like Nic Nat compared to height and size of Max Gawn. To me they can compliment each other and on Saturday we should have used the switch more especially after quarter time

Agree with this, fielding locals will attract local supporters back to this level. It is going to be an interesting few months as the AFL works through 2021 and what their clubs look like. I love the idea of community football at this level, it will be better product then watch the way AFL players are turned into robots.

Sam is an almost there player, he is getting to the right spots, he is getting hands to the ball but he just didn't hold on to the mark. If he can start hanging to the ball he will be a good player. Not much to beat at the moment Tmac can't mark, is getting outmarked by his opponent, push off the ball to easy and offers nothing once it hits the ground. At least Jackson has an excuse and will get better with each game, not sure about Tommy though he seems a spent player

That would be interesting, I think unfortunately the Casey alignment will end at years end. Not sure what it is going to look like but hearing either AFL reserves, then the current Non AFL clubs forming that third tier competition. If you do what Kennett wants I reckon as posted above two AFL divisions 10 teams in each add in a NT and Tasmanian team to increase to 20 sides. I actually don't mind this.

I do look at our match day attendance when we were up and about in 2018, the finals we had the majority of the crowd in 2 finals, from memory close to 90k attendance in both finals. 2000 the mcg was pumping and the even years that followed, winning seasons brought in big crowds. Crowds get you better fixture which gets you free to air TV coverage which gets more sponsors. Then I don't because I just can't see how we are going to change the losing culture that has got a stranglehold on our club.

I do get the point, we have had 50 years to get the culture right at our club, we need to change from accepting this losing culture that is ingrained at our club. Yes potentially we can be a big club, but that is all we have talked about on this site since it was started the potential of our club and teams. At some stage potential needs to be realised or it becomes irrelevant.

No we can't, for some reason our on field continues to fail us, no matter what we do off field the on field is and has been a massive issue for the majority of the last 50+ years. We are a long way off from being a good on field side and until that happens we will be considered as a small club that is becoming a Burden to the AFL. I agree with Kennett, the product is so poor at the moment, we have a deluded talent pool, terrible pathway programs. AFL 10 sides Div 1 with 10 sides in Div 2 add in a Tassie and NT side, promotion/relegation bottom 2/top 2 each year. The two biggest clubs in the AFL are West Coast and Adelaide, with out those 2 clubs coming into the VFL/AFL there would be a lot of traditional VFL clubs that would not be running around today. Today both these clubs would be the strongest financial clubs in the AFL.