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Some info on T.Colyer (WA): - (from BF) - JohnnyMcIntyre Thought I'd post this, as he did catch my eye against Vic country. Pace, good foot skills, kicks goals. One for the archives come draft time.

<_< I'd be thinking: - Port are a weak bunch of insipid, pathetic footballers. But I would be happy for our boys and would be wrapped to hear the song again. No more than 4 boys.

I tell you how well the Hawks are travelling. AWFUL. I keep hearing they are 1 game and % out of the eight. What many fail to realise is they have 6 wins from 14 rounds. 2 of those wins were over Melbourne. That is how well they are travelling.

If it was that. Don't you think it would have: - OUT: Johnstone (back) and not OUT: Johnstone (ie. omitted)

Thanks Rogue. Incidentally: "The Facility development fund : Help us build elite training facilities" Is this for the facilities being built at Casey? It makes no mention of Casey in the article. Or is it for elite training facilities in Melb?

Maybe. They will not beat Adelaide at AAMI besides they are probably saving him for the Derby.

Yes good point. Can we expect Bailey to give McNamara a taste before the year is out? Much like Grimes was given last year.....

Well there you go. Agree entirely.

I have seen this table. The facts do not lie. However, if you take away the games Wheatley has missed our value is 23. Down from 36. For Hawthorn the likes of Croad Young Gilham Dew - were they a part of last years top 10? Crawford would have been in it yet he is not playing. So in a way it can be misleading unless closer inspection.

Cheers Akum. With regard to your questions....I'll go by your points first. 1/ Your point here is valid. When comparing the Geelong/St.Kilda lists of when they were recruited/debuted the core (or main strength) of their current list were over 3-4 year gap. Geelong '99-'02, St.K '01-'04. What also must be pointed out, they have been most prudent in their recruitment since. Ie. St.K - Jones, Gilbert, Armitage, McQualter. At Geelong - Mackie, Stokes, Selwood. As I said in an earlier post it is critical that ongoing recruitment is good post 2009. 2. So having said that in point 1, I don't agree with your second point that they have not recruited much since those periods. I think Geelong has added very well, St.Kilda have done ok also. As outlined in point 1. But I do agree that it is imperative (ever so hard though), to recruit well during the period of GC & WS in the comp. It's nigh impossible to get a Selwood after recruiting so well as Geelong did (admittedly father/son helped); but you never know. ie. Viney Jnr. 3. I think they may have made a decision on PJ. They may stick with Meesen & Spencer and develop them. They are still young and have scope for improvement. I do think another ruckman will need to be recruited. 3 is not enough, even though we have Martin. If we don't go for a ruckman, they will be looking at Martin to do some ruckwork. I think a young ruckman at draft time could be picked up in maybe 3rd or 4th round. Then again, there is the PSD if need be. At the moment our ruck stocks look quite weak. Jamar has impressed of late. We will need Spencer or Meesen to step up. By 2012-2013 I expect one of them to be very handy. I don't know which one, but I like Spencer. Just on your point regarding Hawthorn, I agree with G2W to a certain extent. They've had more than their fair share of injuries this year, and alot of it may be put down to their pre-season and celebrations . I don't think it was a "complete aberration". They got there by having quality players (courtesy of the draft) and the likes of Crawford and Dew were just so important. Hawthorn are still on an upward curve IMO, they are still maturing. So I don't think they're model is entirely irrelevant. The reason I used St.K and Geelongs lists were for a number of factors: - 1/ Their lists rival each other (as pointed out by M.Thompson/G.Thomas over the years since 2004 I think). 2/ They were both 13-0 heading into Round 14 clash. 3/ That's where I hope Melbourne gets to with their list in 4-5 years time. 4/ Their sides are that good, it's not funny. I'm jealous.

Port will come to play, finals at stake, Port by 29.

Correct Y_M. The backline has taken shape or is taking shape with many applying for positions and both Martin and Garland are options for up forward. Need more games into the youth and quality mids.

Good article by Matt Burgan. No doubt spending a day with BP, will help him assess he's Top 30 analysis come October/Nov.

He's suspended. He's also entitled to an opinion. Back to the thread. I wonder with Hall gone. O'Loughlin gone. O'Keefe wanting out. Would Robbo be on Swans shopping list?

Mark Stevens......please send cheque in the mail.

Quite right RR. For example if we took out McDonald and Robertson on the above starting 22 from last weekend and replaced them with say Maric and Wonaeamirri, the Average Age for the Dees comes down to 21.24. And there would be in excess of 420+ games of less experience.

Going over the list, and understanding the clubs predicament that we were to expect more "short term pain" this season. With new quality blood into the club come November, I'm expecting the club to lay good foundations over summer for a much better output next season. How much better? Well, I'm expecting more wins. I'm expecting alot of excitement. But I'm not expecting a finals berth. But I'll take it if it's achieved. The new works in progress at Casey for state of the art facilities, can't come quick enough. Rogue, what was that link again that you bumped - to go towards the funding for FD, gym etc.?

Option 2. Agree.

As long as he's getting under the skin of players such as Mark McVeigh, etc and keeps everything in check, as well as doing his job each week which he has been doing of late (and doing well mind you)....he's a required player.

I see the Russian Institution have now appointed their new manager. Wonder at what cost?

WHACK! Take that joeboy... Are you driving it Fan? I'm buckled up in the passenger seat if you are driving. Just don't go over 120km/h!

True. Jared Rivers is an exception. Grimes can play midfield. He's had a go in the middle.

He will make you proud Rojik. If we get him.

If you take your hand off it, it plays Jingle Bells too. Not even if he's best for Melbourne 8 weeks in a row? Give me a break!

read post #109. It was in response to #108.