daisycutter

nah!

tomas bugg gws

tend to agree neil. and "leading" doesn't necessarily mean doing all the work, but does give a lot of credibility to project puts us more in the tent than outside it, trying to get in

pretty sure they'd get game passes and a bit of merchandise, and the odd feed

treloar on filth's calendar just might turn out to be accurate

nah, just more of "whatever it takes"

afl - fail filth - big fail dogs - fail

keep working on it ?

the only development needed at punt road oval begins with b and ends with ozer

nah ds, it's one of those things that only work one way not everything has to be scientifically logical why else would we all be here spreading our passion on 'land when nothing much is coming the other way

it is only 16 days since tradeweek finished afl really have screwed up here call it all off, treloar back to filth dodoro nominated for sainthood

wasn't friday (yesterday) the afl deadline for resolution?

just remember where you were and what you were doing at the time a highlight story for the grandchildren

this thread just got all scrambled up

doesn't mean we have to like it, wwsw ☹️

treloar back to filth filth blow salary cap fined $400,00 fined 12 premiership points miss finals by %

may the filth's travails last for ever i hope bucks and eddie never resign

pies make dodoro look like a choir boy

waiting for a "should we go after beams" post

doesn't have to be tiggy touch wood, just allow 3 seconds when prior opportunity. was essentially this years ago.

ffs, are we going to keep up this mfcss petracca hysteria running for another 2 years?

understand where you are coming from but i think you are being too pessimistic saying "incentivising attack isn't enough. And measures to try to reduce congestion aren't enough". I think they can work but not straight away and the current changes for 2021 aren't enough but they are a start and importantly an admission by the afl of the problem. and remember it's not necessary to eliminate congestion , just minimise it enough to restore a better balance of defense vs offense. I hate the notion of turning players into defensive robots and inhibiting the natural football creative and attacking instincts of players

hindsight is the refuge of those with no foresight pDC

oh i agree coaches will try and dig in. maybe even look for more athletic types, but let's face it most players in today's environment have to be fit and athletic anyway, certainly compared to the past and there is now a diminishing advantage in improving this aspect. sure they'll try all the tricks you allude to to maintain congestion but their options will become increasingly restrictive and i'm confident over time (and with more changes) they (at least some initially) will start to build the offensive side of their game or be left behind, won't happen overnight though. agree with your thoughts on zones. I just can't accept it with all the different suggestions i've heard. Also i don't like the reduction of players a'la the old vfa but i'm trying to keep my mind open on that one. it would certainly reduce congestion. i'm not against defence per se, it can be a great part of the game, it's just about having a good balance between defence and offence

here is a snip from sheedy's article in hun re kickins.....not too much detail