daisycutter

i got sucked in nicely.......was fully prepared to vomit

in terms of ducking or lowering your centre of gravity etc i like to split it into 2 categories 1. ducking/weaving etc away from the tackler, to avoid a tackle and break free. i consider this legitimate 2. ducking into a tackle. this is staging for a free and a free should not be played. it is either play on or holding the ball if there is prior. i would also like to see umps caution players who do this.

and here is the afl one. you can see it is a different starting 18 and the line up (positions) is different RichmondVMelbourne FB [29] Jayden Hunt,[1] Steven May,[35] Harrison Petty HB [23] James Jordon,[44] Joel Smith,[24] Trent Rivers C [10] Angus Brayshaw,[5] Christian Petracca,[15] Ed Langdon HF [25] Tom McDonald,[26] Sam Weideman,[30] Alex Neal-Bullen FF [31] Bayley Fritsch,[50] Ben Brown,[9] Charlie Spargo FOL [11] Max Gawn,[13] Clayton Oliver,[32] Tom Sparrow IC [4] James Harmes,[6] Luke Jackson,[12] Toby Bedford,[17] Jake Bowey,[18] Jake Melksham,[20] Adam Tomlinson,[27] Luke Dunstan,[36] Kysaiah Pickett

which one? the afl one or the mfc one?

starting 18 can't be fixed because the afl lineup is different from the mfc lineup

it's the richmond pickett that is out (acc to ch9 news)

hahaha this thread just rockets along and becomes a huge echo chamber i keep getting sucked in every time i see a new post has been entered

getting any working definition of anything from the afl would be a first

yes, but they weren't the reigning premiers, which was the point

eddie is becoming a parody of eddie

work rate has a lot (but not only) to do with fitness and we owe a big thanks to burgess for raising the bar

raising eyebrows? opening mouth like a gold fish? shaking head left to right? giving oneself a nev facepalm? and finally saying sarcastically "good decision, ump"?

would love to see nick kyrgios playing afl just for the laughs

for me it's in bbb and out sw and a demolition of the ferals

but there was method in our madness

well all i can say is that all those who couldn't be bothered attending on sat night missed out on witnessing a cracking game of football from the boys

again macca, you are painting me as saying things i've never said my beef is and always has been that these new interpretations have gone too far, and to the extent of being damaging to the respect for umpires. now tell me how that point of view is too hard for you understand, even if you disagree

Brad Scott fined $30,000 by AFL for accusing umpires of bias, North Melbourne cops $50,000 punishment Posted Tue 21 Jun 2016 at 4:22pmTuesday 21 Jun 2016 at 4:22pm, updated Tue 21 Jun 2016 at 4:32pm The AFL has fined North Melbourne coach Brad Scott $30,000 for accusing umpires of bias. In the immediate aftermath of North Melbourne's nine-point loss to Hawthorn, Scott claimed he had been told an on-field umpire made the remark after a crucial non-decision went against the Kangaroos, but an investigation on Saturday morning proved the claims to be false. The Kangaroos have also been fined $50,000 as a result of the incident. "The comments by Brad Scott, on behalf of the club in his position as senior coach, were extremely serious in regard to the conduct and professionalism of the umpires and how they officiate all players equally across the competition," AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans said in a statement. "It was totally inappropriate for any doubt to be cast over their professionalism in a public environment without having detailed the facts of what had occurred in any player-umpire conversations through the course of the match.

oh just go away, nev and learn to read peoples posts properly, you are a real pest at times i have NEVER said abuse shouldn't be cracked down on.......just where the line drawn is reasonable

i'd have thought Darren Goldspink's opinion would have been worth consideration

every one is well aware of what brad scott has said. it's everywhere. besides i left that out and the pics because of demonland's policy of not reproducing media items in full

seems like local football and umps don't agree with you, macca Umpires say the AFL’s abuse crackdown is doing more bad than good There are fears the controversial crackdown on dissent in the AFL’s top flight is opening up community umpires to more abuse. Brayden May, Daniel Cencic and Chris Cavanagh (Herald Sun) The AFL’s crackdown on abuse towards umpires is having the opposite effect of its intention according to match officials. VAFA umpire Brian Clarke, who has over 20 years’ experience, said it’s becoming even harder for umpires to remain as “invisible as possible” in their roles, with the new dissent rules making them a target for crowd abuse. The crackdown reached boiling point at the top on the weekend when 50m penalties were handed out for players having their “arms out” in response to umpiring decisions. Clarke said he understood the push to reduce abuse but said the AFL have “yet again, gone too far.” He said local footballers would soon be calling for 50s when an opposition players “waves their arms around”. “At a community level, if I umpired the way they do in the AFL, I would be shot so I don’t officiate that way,” he said. “Our role is to be as invisible as possible and the AFL have not helped us at all with the constant changing of rules. “Many people work hard during the week – they come down to the footy to not only barrack for their team but also let off a bit of steam. “In this role I believe we play an important community function. “It’s great for individual and community mental health to not keep life’s pressures bottled up inside you. “So if a supporter or player is giving me some feedback during the games, and offering some unsolicited advice, then fair enough. “None of us – the players, supporters or umpires – are robots. “We all love footy because of the passion and emotion involved, and long may this continue. “Where would our game be without it?” AFL field umpire Darren Goldspink spoke on radio SEN station on Tuesday morning saying there was now “more pressure on umpires”. In February, the AFL had written to clubs about the need for more respect towards officials. “In isolation what the AFL has tried to do is fair enough and we all know the reasons why they do that,” Goldspink said. “To me it seems like it’s had the opposite effect at the moment.” The veteran of six AFL grand finals said officiating was “bleeding” at community level where some umpires are watching over up to five games a weekend. “How is that any good for anybody? The guys who are doing five games are old guys like me who aren’t in any physical condition to do five games,” he said. “What’ll happen, and this might be over the top, but one of them is going to have some sort of serious medical episode on the ground and then we’ll all stand up and say, ‘Oh sh*t that shouldn’t have happened’. “It just riles me.” Former AFL umpire Michael Vozzo said the crackdown on abuse at AFL level served to create a safe environment for those at local level. Vozzo, who umpired 281 AFL matches between 1999-2011, previously held the head of umpiring post at the Eastern league. “To be honest, I used to laugh a little bit … we were sort of the first crop of umpires that started clamping down on it (abuse) and I remember commentators were saying ‘The umpires need to be a bit bigger than that’ because they (thought) we should accept it and put up with it,” he said. “They’re doing it to create an environment at local level for umpires to go out and do their job without the threat of abuse. I’ve coached umpires and I’ve seen the abuse where it’s easy for someone to get at an umpire in local football, whereas in the AFL, they’re protected. It’s quite rare at AFL that it hurts an umpire, but we do it to ensure that local level umpires aren’t subjected to it. “I’ve seen a grown man threaten a 15-year-old umpire … and his mum sitting up in the grandstands crying. If people are going to get all huffy and puffy over umpires trying to clamp down on player abuse, they’ve got to think about that mum that’s put themselves in that position where if it was their child out in the middle of the ground, what would they think when a player’s going up to them, pointing in their face and threatening to bash them after the game? “I think people would have a bit better understanding if it was their kid.”

well in round 4 i saw an umpire reverse a decision - can't remember which game umpire 1 paid a free against a player. player appealed, no fifty a good 5-10 seconds later umpire 2 runs in and indicates the free should have been to the other team, as all the players were setting up for the first free. they decided on a ball-up just saying..... i thought it a good resolution and wished it happened more often when different umpires see it differently, as i'm sure probably happens reasonably often

well to be fair, red, it is his brother's favourite player after all ,

just like your predictions on never changing the predominately white away strip, eh macca