daisycutter

let me be very clear on this, od. is there any other form of politics? 🤣

i can see a future for scott in politics

m'kay

well, given you like stats, macca i'm curious what your response is to sue's "report on the reasons for lack of umpires commissioned by the AFL in 2021" posted above

i never said get them all clear cut........i did say "some" could be eliminated and some better defined. no big deal in that. all sports have grey areas, and i'm not claiming afl is an easy game to umpire.....just that it could be improved i can live with grey areas, 50:50s and occasional missed frees. what i want is better consistency umpire to umpire and week to week the 2 big issues in our game at the moment is umpiring and set shot goal kicking the former would be greatly improved with full time professional umpires just like all the other operational areas of the afl. i don't understand why you would even try to argue against that

no you can't eliminate all grey areas but you can reduce them somewhat and better define some to be clearer the main thing that would help in grey areas would be better consistency with umpires, and this consistency is something that i would expect to improve drastically with full time professional umpiring

i don't want perfection at all. umpires will never see everything and they don't have built instant replay as i said it's the constant rule changes, many just stupid, plus the ever changing "interpretations" it's not that hard, macca to improve and simplify the adjudicating of our great game as others have said the afl need to usher in full time professional umpiring and actually spend some serious money on it, instead of this continual, all to clever, knee-jerk, over-reacting we have seen in recent years

most (real) abuse umpires cop (at all levels) is from the spectators this over-reaction is only going to get the umpires more abuse from the spectators and a reduction in respect hard to see much will be gained, especially as they continue to make inconsistent and bad decisions in general a lot of it is the afl's fault for meddling with the rules and weekly changing interpretations

i'm really hating the umpiring standards this year, the contentious and technical, non-consequential 50m penalties and now the new baffling umpire dissent adjudications it is all so frustrating and ruining my enjoyment of the game and i don't think i'm alone

afl have shown scant regard for junior and grass roots football they happily spend as little as they can get away with it's not just a shortage of umps at junior level, it's also players

with facial detection software and umps mic'ed up it's probably available now i'm tipping yellow/red card next cab off the rank. afl and broadcasters would love the theatre of it

impure thoughts won't be far off now

or just do away with umpires

it's going to turn into a game of 50m rules will need a new name

sorry, but in all honesty i don't like it far too busy and pantomine looking no offence meant, i'm sure someone put a bit of work into it

caro's jumped in too and backing the afl.......players will have to learn to be disciplined robots

wasn't just the staging, his hand hits the hawks player's face and we've talked before about hawkins wandering arms/hands

sliding doors if this is what's coming from the literate feral fans..... .....imagine what the illiterate ferals must be saying

as i predicted

gave me a chuckle

that's the media for ya. always looking to drag up some contentious point for the sake of a few clicks

interesting giant.s coach (or even goody) didn't give a single vote to a giant

we see a lot of this in other facets of life a complete over-reaction to a problem which confuses and annoys the heck out of everyone and the original "message" is mangled and lost rule interpretations like this are having the opposite effect with umpires ending up with less respect not more who'd have thunk the afl could [censored] this up so badly?

now, now, you shouldn't be saying things like that about "caro's angels" unless you want a horde of bikies knocking on your door at 3am

you're right.....your memory wasn't great they used to be red hot if you had prior......i even remember a time when they said you had ? seconds to dispose, where ? was something like 2-3 seconds iirc.