daisycutter

RPFC, Seeing as how we are discussing "Heritage" and, as a purely whimsical comment You do realise that our "clash" jumper of red white and blue is the same colours as Collingwoods heritage colours, when they were known as Britannia prior to joing the then VFA (pre VFL). Does that boil your blood WYL?

Yeah, we've been here before My point about the "white" was that ALL the original clubs had all white jumpers, so what is MFC about that? But my point about not knowing what you are getting at was your following comment I don't agree with it, but not sure why you would make a point of saying that BTW, do you have any info links or more info to the red and green colours? I must have missed that . . . interesting. (Pity Vlad would consider green a dark colour)

Edit: sorry rpfc, this was not meant to be a reply to your post - finger problems Happy to give Bruce a 1 or 2 year contract His fitness should stand for 2 more years (one of his assets) With such a dearth of experienced players there is plenty of opportunities to get games into young players So what if he is not a part of a premiership team, others won't be either

Don't know what you are getting at here rpfc In the first decade (approx) of the MFC all the competing teams wore an all white(ish) "uniform" only distinguishable from each other by coloured caps. So white was no more a defining colour of the MFC than white is a defining colour of the Australian cricket team Or are you arguing for a return of the heritage red caps?

to be fair read the whole thread. there are 5 pages yes there are mixed comments, just like here. they do have a lot of pizzed supporters remember too that white is part of their colours anyway and to them its more a design issue and just not being able to wear their preferred home strip (esp as coll changed the back of their home strip to be the same as aints) So, slightly different issues they also don't have the same attachment having only won one flag in their tricolor anyway they are not a club with strong traditions like us can you imagine if the situation was reversed and coll had to change?

Yeah, they have their stooges there too, eh?

here's one WYL Saints fans outraged at clash jumper

Dunno where you looked old dee but I had a look and found plenty of comment. One thread went 5 pages (and growing) But yes, of course dees supporters are more passionate P.S. The Saints clash jumper still only has the Saints colours - would be worse for some other clubs The Red'n'Blue isn't everything, it's the only thing (apologies to Vince Lombardi)

I don't think they'll bend on the need for a clash jumper (well, not in my time) But, eventually, I believe they can be convinced to moderate their overly restrictive rulings You know, its not just a few "zealots" on 'land who are unhappy, there are many punters in many clubs (and other leagues) who are pizzed off too. And don't believe the club is happy either, its just not the biggest item on their agenda and given they have to have a clash strip under the AFLs strict rules, they have to put a bit of happy-face and spin on it. They are hardly likely to announce a new clash jumper shortly and say they are unhappy about it are they? Expect a lot of spin.

Well, I have said it before a number of times for example a red/blue reverse jumper would be ok with me And there could be other "acceptable" designs if only we had more flexibility

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not totally against a clash strip What I am against is a predominately white clash strip, and the narrow defining of which teams we clash with. I think the AFL rulings on these two aspects are an overreaction and overly dictatorial Is that clearer for you or are you happy with the situation?

the natives are not happy, old dee, i smell revolution in the making Seriously though, as a first step maybe we could at least convince the AFL to allow coloured shorts for away strips? This makes a big difference visually to the overall look of white. Look at many of the NRL away strips where this is not a requirement.

Well, if I was in his position in a close game and got asked if I mistook the ump for a dee, guess what I'd say TBH I'm not saying it wasn't a case of a clash, it probably was, but there is room for doubt (totally stupid umpiring decision anyway) BTW I do believe there are cases of misidentification in games, always has been and always will be, even with clash strips. Problem is just how prevelant they are and to what extremes do you goto to avoid them. At the moment the AFL just dictatorially decide who clashes and what clash strips must look like and allows new franchises to design home strips which obviously clash etc. etc.

Well it was a "crap" handpass - missed by a mile (assuming he did mistake umpire for a dee)

And that isn't good enough reason for you!! people have been killed for less

The white away shorts is a very good point Rogue Having a predominately white jumper plus white shorts just completes that awful white sheet KKK look I had a look at other leagues and they don't insist on white shorts. Have a look at the away strips of the NRL. Most are in their main club color e.g. Storm's is purple. This small change makes a huge difference to the overall look

This is an abomination FTLOT I was at the 1966 GF and never heard anyone there or afterwards talk of "clashes"

Swan and Didak have nasty headclash in 2nd Q with Filth 5 goals up, and take no further part in game. With only 2 rotations for Filth, Aints claw back and hit the front early in last Q Aints then run away with game by 28 points as Filth fans leave early in droves Riewoldt for Norm Smith, Eddie everywhere not seen anywhere

I never said it was a reflection on ablett Probably a combination of his teammates ineptitude and the Filths ability to get numbers around the loose ball

I can vouch for it. Was in Hun, either online or printed, can't remember Gist was MFC offered 1 year and pay cut GC offered 2 years and about 450k extra (presumably over 2 years, i.e. 200k approx more per year). Doesn't mean it was accurate though.

Ablett was good, but his impact was quite average. He was always under huge pressure when he got possession and rarely was able to find open space. His 40 possessions probably over flatter him. He was by far Geelong's best player, but Coll would feel his impact was well contained.

He turned 16 in April this year, so I assume he is in year 10 now, although he could be in the young-for-year category? That would mean 2012 would be his year 12 and F/S draft year to MFC I believe he can nominate next year as a F/S (to avoid special 17yo GWS draft) and then still be drafted in 2012

Bottom four, no question, and, probably for two years You only have to look at history

Settle down folks Collingwood can't win, the colliwobbles will strike again Much much better to have the filth make the grand final and fail again, hopefully by a bad umpiring decision with a Aints goal after the siren, or anything suitably controversial Couldn't possibly hate the Aints more than the Filth

Yes, I believe he has that option i.e. nominate next year as a FS, but get drafted in 2012