Redleg

It was a gratuitous put down. It had no relevance to the article. It is easy to kick a club that is down. We have to get on the front foot with the media and find positives to promote the club.

Very big and heavy and raw, but who knows he could be a future ruckman/forward. Brogan made the transition from basketball to AFL. You would have to consider him for a late pick or rookie pick given our dearth of key forwards and ruckmen.

Agree WJ. Best to play them early when we are both undefeated and everyone is chomping at the bit for the new season to start. Forget about the Grand Prix if we don't get a good turnout for our first game at home we are in for another rocky season. There is no excuse for the fans of either side not to front up. How is the GC17 looking from your vantage point up north? Have you discovered anything yet? How was the mountain climbing, you must have enjoyed the view of the peaks? Have you run into Barry from Beach Road on your northern sojurn?

One of my favourite players with some great initials. Forget mouthguards, Biff just removed his front teeth and went out to give his all. His final game from memory was against the Pies and he hurt several of them on the day. He could play both ends and was a fantastic competitor. Today he would probably not get a look in as he would be considered too slow for the modern game. If played on Buddy his tactic would be to get a contest early and hurt him in the pack. He could not match Buddy for pace, reach or athletic ability and would be slaughtered unless he got that early attack in. If he did, Buddy would watch the rest of the game from the bench or later on the TV replay.

Closer to 40-45 I would say.

You are a member of a very large club.

"Port Adelaide, the 2004 premiers and 2007 grand finalists, is poised to announce a loss of more than $1.4million on the 2008 season that will reflect one of the worst declines in attendance in the game's recent history. Port, which, for all of its tradition and success, has always been a marginal AFL business, drew an average of just 23,842 fans to its 11 home games at AAMI Stadium this year, a drop of almost 15 per cent on 2007. It drew, for example, just 31,662 to the second of the showdowns with cross-town rival Adelaide in July where the Crows pulled 45,524 to the first." The above was in todays Australian. This from a club in a two team state and with an old established football club connection. Doesn't make our performance as bad. Can't wait for the two new teams, especially the one in West Sydney. Vlad will have to pay people in Sydney to turn up even with free tickets.

Unfortunately the sample comes from your head not your back.

Correct.

We could make an offer to him just to drive his price up for carltank. There is no way they would let him go, they would have to match any offer made to him. Of course they would have no problem matching any offer has they have no salary cap issues!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, I can give you 7.5 million reasons why judd chose carltank. It had nothing to do with our facilities, he also turned down the lexus magpies in favour of the blues dump.

Does that mean he is 1% always right about nothing.

Agree, but he needs to muscle up and get his mate Juice to do the same.

I left out Saddington so that makes the argument stronger. I agree Ackland was on more than I guessed at $150k. I was told by Carlton people it was more like $300k plus and that was confirmed today on SEN. Again my argument is further strengthened. Do it for Robbie agrees Judd is on $1m a year and says Visy are paying $400k of it ( jokingly ). Let's not be naieve on Judd's salary, he was offered well in excess of $1m per year by several clubs of which we were one. He changed clubs for money and good luck to him. My mail was that he is on $7.5m over 5 years, that is $1.5 a year. It would make sense for the contract to be front loaded as there was room for the Blues to do it in his first year, as their youngsters were on original low contracts and Fev had not got his $750k a year new one yet. I put him in at $1m and I am positive that is generous for the conservative. Again my argument would be strengthened. I just fail to see how they can do it legally. Anyway, stuff Carltank, that is the AFL and the other clubs' problem.

Look at Jarka's reply and add to it the fact that we have failed to convince the last three guys we have had a serious go at to come to us. I will leave it to others to decide. Then again the answer could be in the future tense, if we manage to convince a good player to go into the PSD we could be considered a "good club" as that's what a "good club" would do..

No, you heard it here first, Carroll will not be at Melbourne in 2009. They will not [censored] $270k down the drain. They will negotiate a much smaller payment or the matter will end in Court ( together with the resultant publicity ) with the Club arguing that he has breached his contract so significantly that it is unenforceable and at an end.

Why is my " argument" totally flawed? I have merely put down reported and assumed salaries and the figures lead to the conclusion that half Carltank's list would be on an average of $50.000 each. The 7 Geelong AA players this year and 9 AA players last year you have referred to are basically the same guys not 16 different ones and even if they were I have named 22 Carlton players and you have possibly suggested about 10 Geelong players. Lets assume an average of $500.000 each for the 10, which is "huge", then the last 30 share $3million an average of $100.000 each which is clearly possible as many are young draftees. Look at my figures for Carltank and point out where you think I am wrong and we can redo them. Don't just say my argument is totally flawed.

Doesn't need to go that far. For example, you employ a relative at an exorbitant salary, or you drop the old brown bag full of the folding stuff on the players couch while you are convincing him to play for you, or you buy an asset that you agree to transfer to the player some time in the future when he is no longer an employee of the club etc.

Obviously they don't have a salary cap. They have now offered Ryan O'Keefe a 4 year contract at $500.000 a year if he goes into PSD ( according to ten news tonight). I was also advised that Ackland is on over $300.000 a year by a Carlton person who claimed to know and that some of my other guesses were conservative. You can be sure the AFL will not seriously investigate this club.

Enough already.

How do I feel, I have been telling people for months that if we finish last we can use the first PSD pick to blackmail clubs to trade players with us. What I forgot what was that players would have to want to come to us first.

A good club with first pick in the PSD would convince an uncontracted player that they want to get, not to re sign with his club. That's what a good club would do.

And I do! ( hate trade week).

Agree.

Agree.