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Dean Bailey tells the AFL he didn't order players to lose
Redleg replied to Alf Stewart's topic in Melbourne Demons
I really don't like the bit about the investigators reinterviewing witnesses that have different views to the ones they want to hear. There is clealry coercion going on and to be honest it is quite unsavoury. Carlton were rung up and asked did you tank, they said no and case closed. Ours however has become a witch hunt. It really is unsavoury. Now that the man in charge has said he didn't tank and didn't ask others to tank, that is the end. CC could have said anything he liked. The Coach has said he didn't do it and therefore the rule has not been breached and the AFL if it had any decency left should end this now. Melbourne should start calculating the damage it has suffered because of this investigation.- 174 replies
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Something positive. That's nice.
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Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
Now we are quoting friends of players. Perhaps the papers would let me have my say. Also disappointing that Jurrah walks out on us and now his friend feels compelled to get involved. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
It seems some in the media and the football world are starting to see this for what it really is. There are articles and statements coming out defending us and telling the AFL not to act like a bully, against a weak club that has hardly benefited from what many did and benefited heavily from doing. The blame is being put at the feet of the AFL for creating the system and then embracing and condoning it. -
Can fully understand.
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Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
Perhaps Wilson should be charged for bringing the game into disrepute, for making it appear an AFL Investigation has leaked info to a journo. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
Half the people in the room were recruiting people who have nothing to do with match day and are not coaches. To tell the whole room that you will all be sacked is obviously a joke. Then he leaves. He is trying to be funny which he has done at every function I have seen him at. So he comes uninvited into a meeting and says "you will all be sacked if we lose the draft pick and Jimmy has fallen out of his hospital bed" and then leaves. Gee that sounds real serious. If he wanted to tank he need only quietly mention it to Bailey not in front of 15 witnesses. Get a grip, it's a bloody joke. -
I have this feeling that since GWS will be delivered Tippett on a plate, free of charge, they may now not opt for Grundy. That puts Wines at risk.
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Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
And Wilsons response to this is? Oh that's right the Tigers are her club and Schwab doesn't work there. -
Saw Silvagni at a Restaurant last night and nearly wanted to ask him how you know who was going and who they were taking 1,2 & 3.
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Saw Silvagni at a Restaurant last night and nearly wanted to ask him how Tom was going and who they were taking 1,2 & 3.
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That is the first and most important thing at the moment. Looking likely as no charges yet and Defence will take a long time to get ready.
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Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
"At the end of an embarrassing week, it's worth pondering what the acquisition of a priority draft pick by Melbourne in 2009 and the recruitment of Israel Folau by GWS in 2010 actually achieved. Both were attempts at tinkering with the natural order and both have ended badly. If they share a common outcome, it is loss of respect. More distressing for Melbourne is the likelihood of carnage. Evidence is mounting that during the second half of the 2009 season specific actions were taken by important figures at the club designed to ensure the team didn't win so many games as to disqualify itself from a priority draft pick. The degree of evil in this, it must be said, is debatable. Obviously it is a practice that can't go unaddressed. Yet it's nothing like the corruption of horse racing or cricket or sports in which the use of performance-enhancing drugs influences outcomes. Self-interest was not at play. In this case, a club stands accused of exploiting a bad rule by under-performing in what were meaningless games. It was acting in what it reasonably regarded - according to the rules - as its long-term interests. Many of its supporters sensed what was happening and approved of it. Nevertheless, the idea that a substantial coterie could be embraced within such a conspiracy, without high risk of eventual disclosure, was totally amateurish and utterly foolish. And it was indisputably against the spirit of sport. But so was the rule relating to priority draft picks as it then stood. It didn't just invite but encouraged what has happened. The AFL's failure to change its rule at the first hint of the possibility it offered is also condemnable." Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dark-artists-drop-the-ball-20121103-28r36.html#ixzz2BAI97B9g Article today in the Age by Tim Lane. Bit more balanced than Wilson's invective. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
"You’re kidding Caroline aren’t you? You have the audacity to come out with a comment like “it’s not really like sport”. You’re an offensive, sneering and nasty woman. They should call you Caro the Grouch because most of the stuff that comes out of your mouth is absolute trash! Is anyone going to chat to you about your offensive behaviour I wonder? And who are you to talk about what people’s intentions are when they watch the paralympics, I have thoroughly enjoyed celebrating the achievements of these great athletes whenever I’ve had the chance to watch them competing. Keep your bigoted views to yourself and focus on the positives in future! Posted by Kate | September 17, 2008, 12:53 It beggars belief that Wilson would make such a callous comment about the Paralympic Games not being seen as sport(Offsiders 14th/9/08). Hello, one wonders who builds this woman up as being a competent journalist when you only have to watch ‘Footy Classified’ to quickly find her contribution as gossip -lacking positiveness most times and self opiniated to the extreme. And this is what is served weekly to the viewers. Now that should give you some understanding of where her sporting prowess lies because Caroline understands little other than the AFL competition. Her comments were definitely prejudiced against the decision to hold these games in equal billing to the non disabled olympics. Unfortunately her comments have done an enormous amount of damage to the acceptance years ago of equality and inclusion of all people in all types of sport be it at an elite level or not. Somebody should tell Wilson that these competitors are elite sports people who were chosen to represent their repective countries and they did it with such great aplombe, dignity, self confidence and professionalism. And those who won or not were just so happy to have had the opportunity to represent their respective countries. But why did Cassidy have to play that footage showing the unfortunate side of a what happens in all sports. Now was he trying to elicit this type of response from Ms Wilson for discussion and if so it didn’t work. As far as I am concerned there was no need to select this footage to highlight whether this is sport or not. I demand that Caroline Wilson make a public apology to all the Australian competitors when they arrive back to Australia.I also demand that she apologise to the dedicated viewers of the Offsiders program as well. Posted by pam mcintosh | September 20, 2008, 17:28 Absolute disgrace. She can now join that other sports journo Patrick Smith that I will refuse to ever read again. What a prejudiced [censored]! They are genuine sports champions and to see the steelers play murder ball was very exciting. Go for it, you are all champions in my book! Posted by Paul McMahon | September 24, 2008, 7:53 " The above comments were made 4 years ago in response to Wilson saying that the Paralympics weren't sport. What a disgraceful thing to say. This is the type of person the Age has as its chief football writer. You really are trash. You would be right at home on the Jerry Springer show. -
He won't be on our list till 2014.
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Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
Agree. I consider myself a mate of Chris's and I feel very sorry for him. None of this has anything to do with personal gain but rather gain for our club. He is copping sh-t and a lot of it unfairly. I will not cut and run. He has my support and remains my mate no matter what the outcome. Wilson or VM ( Vendetta Mouthpiece) has lost me forever, with her single minded attempt to enact revenge on Cameron Schwab. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
I won't. -
You have to learn to ignore facts and logic.
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In my backyard as a 12 year old with a Magpie mate listening on a transistor radio. Couldn't get a ticket and my parents weren't into football.
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Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
I apologize. She is now to be referred to by me as Wilson or (VM) Vendetta Mouthpiece. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
The alleged rapes by 2 Saints players several years ago and the Saints schoolgirl sex incident got less coverage and venom than this. Wonderful society we live in. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
I will go out on a limb here and say if Schwab was not reappointed, Brock would not have been on OTC and we would not be in the middle of this. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
What is the position when a sponsor, the Age, attacks the club it sponsors? I know there is freedom of speech and journos in newspapers have a job to do, but this is over the top. Deeman suggested we part ways with the Age. That is one avenue. It will as he says show integrity. In addition to us cancelling subscriptions, remember advertising is their revenue. I for one will never use the Age again for advertising and I will be speaking to my Real Estate mates and business friends to convince them to do the same. If Caro has the right to write venom, we have the right to lawfully respond. -
Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism
Redleg replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
And you know that how?