Redleg

If you are going to ask sensible questions, you should probably follow another club.

I think the FD all had surgeries, frontal lobotomies.

You left out a blah.

Is doing better forward than I thought he could. If he was isolated one on one like say a Pies entry he would be even better. However needs some ruck education, in getting ball to our advantage, but has been a good pickup and can getter much better.

Yep.

Agree, with most of that. Did you notice that our 2 best players Oliver and Brayshaw are going at about 60% disposal efficiency. IMO that is down to the gameplan and congested forward 50, where they kick to a contest every time because no one has got free, which won't happen under the chaos game plan.

Suggest you ring the club, because they haven't worked it out. It is actually funny that you pay these guys a sh-tload of money for their expertise and they can't see what the rest of the footy world does.

That is what is so worrying. Having 2 slow, over 30's on the wings in a 6-6-6 scenario is suicide. Saints had 6 players under 20 games and guess what, they are well drilled, know what to do and where to go and have pace and skill.

Good idea. He has the knowledge of 280 games with Clarko to use.

Disagree Saty. It is clean ball use and workrate, but it is also speed. I saw Saints run off us several times. The game plan of a congested forward 50 doesn't allow us any one on one contests to win. However at the other end you have them a plenty or mostly uncontested marks/kicks and goals. That is why the opposition is scoring at about a goal every 2nd entry and us at about a goal every 10th entry. It is a flawed gameplan that the whole footy world except our coaches see. The goals we get are from a flash of brilliance like Trac while being spun around or a great Melk mark occasionally. The opposition kick them off the ground, handball into the goal square unopposed, mark unopposed or run in unopposed. You can't win with chaos footy alone, especially when you have no pace, disposal skill and alternative plan to shut down large groups of goals. I repeat, if we went man on man early in the 3rd, we would have stopped their goal avalanche and given us a chance to fight back in the last. It is pure arrogance to not admit when you are wrong and the Coaches are therefore guilty of that. To be honest, to me, it looks like we give up when the run on starts as we know we can't stop it under the current gameplan and coaching. Players are not playing instinctively and that is why they get the ball and either handball it off to a contest immediately or hold it too long looking for their best option and then get caught holding it. We are playing a dumb brand of footy and until the Coaches do something about, it I don't think the players can.

To think that Petrucelle went about 10 picks after him. You know him, the bloke with pace to burn who kicked 5 this week. I like Spargo, but he is not a small forward. He is small though. After his missed pass, the Saints kicked the next 8 goals. It was like it sucked the hope from his team mates. We have a gameplan that has been destroyed by opposition clubs and a total reluctance to accept what the whole football world has seen. To simply say we have to get better is pathetic. We bleed goals under our gameplan and no Coach is doing anything about it. It is hard to criticize the players when they match the opposition in disposals, beat them easily in inside 50's, but have a gameplan that kills the benefit of inside 50's and bleeds easy goals to the opposition. If you want to know how confused our players are, watch when we get the ball and hesitate, because we don't know what to do and then get caught with the ball. If we had gone man on man in the 3rd quarter we could have stopped the avalanche and had a chance to come back from a few goals down and not 8. We have Plan A and no other. We lack pace and skill and haven't addressed it in the last few years. IMO our FD is guilty of gross negligence in their handling of the list and style of footy we play.

Still think our pace is fine? I said we were the slowest team in the AFL and now most of the commentators agree. Agree with your comment that we are poorly organised. Players have no idea what they are doing or are supposed to be doing. That is why we continually hesitate and are caught with the ball.

Succinct and accurate.

One trick ponies, contested possession, they know nothing else. Plenty of us said the last few years we need pace and skill and we ignored that and here is the result when combined with pathetic arrogant coaching who won’t change structures no matter what.

Coaches have killed this year. Absokutely no structure forward or back. Actually disgusting. I reckon the players have given up because they know you can’t win games that way especially on a big ground. Absolute arrogance or just plain stupidity. Glad we dropped a bloke with pace for Lewis. Just a joke.

Coaching is a f...ing disgrace. Arrogance personified. Disgusting. We will be Carlton’s first win.

Petracca misses from 20 out straight in front dry day. Totally unacceptable. Harmes misses 2 passes and then Spargo does same and Saints kick 3 goals. What do these guys do at training, because they can’t kick a footy?

Can’t pass a Footy can’t win. End of story. Disgraceful skill.

Hore will probably get Membrey with Frost on Bruce.

His turnovers are game killers and even today there were several.

Billy played the first half and with 16 possies was the clear BOG and the commentators agreed ( not that that means much ).

Which Tribunal will hear that? It is an exhibition game.

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I found that very surprising. It was really quite obvious.

"can't hit targets by foot" - that one is incorrect.