demoniac

The market for Jack does not seem to be very deep. Which is if of note given that at 26 he should be in his prime.

Lever will start his first season with the Dees having just turned 22. Dangerfield started his first season with the Cats about to turn 26. Dangerfield was also a free agent so Cats we really doing Crows a favour by trading. Watching Crows reel to celebrate Lever's 50 milestone has me satisfied with deal. 21 year old 195 cm elite intercept marker and spoiler, plays long ie marks/spoils with arms fully extended. Has nice competitive edge. Our defence will love playing alongside Jake.

Do they have cap issues? Reported to have not had prorata contract increases kick in when new EBA/Salary Cap finalised. May also have taken advantage of the 95% rule. Trengrove and Impey would also have freed up 700K+.

Enjoyed Crows Highlights reel to celebrate Lever's 50th. Elite contested mark and spoiler. In the American parlance plays long ie contact ball at maximum straight arm reach when marking/spoiling. Positions himself beautifully to spoil from side/front with conceding a free for illegal contact. Also a desperate competitor. Our defenders will love playing with him. Is it a reality check for Jack that there is shallow demand for his services at what should be the peak of his career?

High draft picks are not an end in themselves. It is a high price but rarely does a 21 year old with Lever's talents move clubs. Elite intercept mark & spoiler, in the American parlance Lever 'plays long' ie contacts the ball with his arms fully extended when marking and spoiling.

Damning with faint praise.

He did tear his hammy in 2016 executing a great tackle after a long chase. Goal kicking accuracy is his major weakness.

He played like he is completely cooked this year. Still has had an outstanding career. Obviously the Giants want the salary cap relief but watching him play this year I thought he was cooked.

Der-Wayne must be a tad disappointed in the career trajectory of one J Toumpas at Port.

Alternate view is that tolerating Jack's failure to consistently adhere to elite training and preparation standards would be a culture killer. Such tolerance would signal to our young players with equal or greater natural talent that cause they're talented like Jack they can also take shortcuts in their training and preparation.

No. Very definition of a list clogger.

Or it could be that view across football and administration of the club is that if they give Jack another chance to demonstrate he understands the professionalism required to be an elite athlete it will set a poor example to the rest of the playing group. Is it ok to coast a little if you've got enough talent?

I think our CEO and Board would have been briefed about the decision to trade Jack, the reasons behind that decision, and the messaging around that decision.

I was thinking more Bobby Ewing

Of course Jack might just be in the shower...

Ned Guy is going to the Pies. Not the firs player manager to go to clubland ie Dan Richardson, Craig Vozzo.

If it is not a fiction then for mine the club has run out of patience and is worried about the example set to younger players if we kept giving Jack more chances to meet expected preparation standards.

So in your view footy department is concocting a fiction to given them a reason to trade Jack out of the club?

Coach, Captain and Footy Dept Chief are all saying his preparation is not at the level it needs to be an elite athlete, and from their blunt tone, it seems this has been a consistent issue. Do you think they have concocted a fiction to give them grounds to trade Jack? or, If you accept what they are saying is your view that, 1 - we give Jack another chance to improve his professionalism, 2 - because of his natural talent its ok to accept that his professionalism is not at an elite level?

What data and criteria do Champion Data use to rank players on forward pressure?

Footy stats are only as reliable as the parameters set. Not a controversial statement.

Shows the limitation of Stats. Only as good as the parameters applied. His defensive skills are in no way elite.

The Coach, Captain and Footy Dept Chief have made it plain Jack does not meet elite standards of training and preparation that the game now demands. 9 years into his career is this ok? Can he get by on talent? Is this a good example for his younger teammates? Jones' comments showed a concern about our young players preparation outside of the club. And yes the club is culpable for being a #farceshambles when Jack arrived. But if after 3 years of Roos, 1 year of Goodwin and 6 years of Missen he does not meet training and preparation standards is that the footy department's fault or Jack's?

At some point its about Jack getting the best out of Jack?

How would you rate Jack's defensive pressure? Do you think he works hard enough on the track and is disciplined enough away from the club to do the 2 way hard running that the game now demands of every player?