demoniac

Self indulgent response by the club. Makes the club look petty and small. Should be fixed ASAP.

Pies have a better balance between inside and outside than we do. Part of solution is to retire Lewis, not play inside mids Jones and Tyson on the wings and replace with outside hard running types. Emergence of De Goey and Stephenson has been important.

What are his 2018 positive onfield attributes? Lets see: Slow Ill disciplined Lacks composure Unreliable disposal Struggling to see above attributes warranting a place in in any AFL team's 22.

Lewis is a great of Hawthorn - 4 flags and a BnFin a flag year - but the game has passed him by. Treacle slow, ill disciplined and with ever worsening composure and disposal. Wonder exactly who Goody thought he could match up on in Eagles forward line. I could not find one. If he wants his 2019 dollars we tell him he'll play entire season for Casey. Hopefully he retires without a settlement for 2019 contract.

We need to spread the ball wider from the contest to release to a player in space. We need to nail our passes. We need to capitalise on Tommy Mac and Weid's overhead marking ability inside 50. We need to run out the game against a team more used to 24 degrees.

I like Smiths height. pace and leap as an in but would've dropped Tyson and kept Fritsch in the team. Tyson is an inside mid playing out of position on the wing. Its not like we are short of contested ball winning players so I would prefer a more natural hard running overhead marking wingman to an out of position inside mid, especially as we are playing Jones on the wing and Lewis on the half back flank.

Hogan may be big bodied but he is not a contested marking beast. Does not read the high ball so struggles to get in a good position. Does not have a good standing jump. Is not a one grab overhead mark. All of these limit his effectiveness as a marking target close to goal. Having said that he has good endurance, reads the play and passes the ball well so is ideally suited to a high half forward role. I'd love to see him playing in that role with Weid and Tommy Mac rotating deep. He's said feels pretty settled in Melbourne and after experiencing some years it'd be hard to forsake the Dees when they finally have potential to play finals consistently for a rebuilding Freo side and the increased travel load. But the lure of home and undoubtedly big dollars is always there. I'd only entertain a trade if he requested one.

Tyson is an inside mid playing as a wingman. One paced, can win his own ball but often gets caught in possesion, inconsistent disposal. If he is not picked in the team as an inside mid then for mine he does not have a spot in the team. We need more pace and hard running on the wing. It is not like we are short of contested ball beasts that we need to sacrifice outside run to play an extra inside mid.

Vital that Dees judge when its their role to go into contest and when its their role to stay out to be an attacking release option or defending Cats release option.

Weed took 3 overhead contested pack marks that Hogan would not. Weed as FF/2nd ruck, Hogan mobile CHF hitting up to wing, Tommy Mac roaming the forward 50.

Well I watch Jesse play. Its not percentage play to kick long to him unless he is on the lead. Does not read the ball in the air. Does not get in the best position. Does not jump at the ball. Often does not get his hands to the ball. Does not take too many 1 grab marks. All in all these attributes will always limit his effectiveness zero to 30 metres out from goal which is where a full forward/key forward should be at his best and where they differentiate from small and medium forwards. More generally Jesse does not have a repeatable goal kicking technique and his positioning and leading patterns need work. Weidemann can jump at the ball and will get his hands to more high balls.Has been in good from for Casey. Of course we are in the RIchmond Small Ball era so a mid/small may come in.

I'd back Weid to be a better target for bail out kicks to 0 - 30 metres out from goal than Hogan. Weid reads the flight better, can jump at the ball, and gets his hands to more high balls than Hogan. Not damning Hogan. Just think his skillset is better suited to a mobile forward role.

In your mind what are the attributes of a key forward and how do Hogan's attributes match?

Hogan is not a Full Forward. If you are playing Full Forward you need to be able to read the flight of the ball in the air to get in the right position, have speed to gap opponent in 5 to 10 steps, jump when flatfooted and take one grab overhead marks. These are all attributes Hogan lacks. It also helps to have an easily repeatable goal kicking technique! In essence Hogan's attributes are much more suited to playing as a mobile medium forward. Unless he is matched up to a midfielder kicking long and high to Hogan is not a percentage play.

I see Hogan as a better mobile forward than full forward playing deep. He does not jump at the ball when flatfooted and he is not a great 1 grab mark both of which limit his effectiveness as a target man for long kicks inside 50. Skill set more suited using his endurance as a mobile high half forward.

There is a place for a winger sitting about 5 to 10 metres off the contest awaiting a release handball or shutting down a similarly loitering opponent. I know we prefer to release to a player about 1 metre away who is about to be tackled but I reckon above might be way to go.

What value is Lewis adding on field? He had a Saint hemmed in on the Members wing boundary line who must've pulled a Houdini move cause next minute Lewis had not moved and the Saint was running along the wing towards their forward 50. Every opponent knows Lewis can't catch them to tackle. That they can run away from him. That he won't run and carry because he knows he'll be run down. That he is a transplanted(pun intended) inside mid who is not great at spoiling. In short forwards across the league are hoping that he'll be their matchup. There is no onfield role for Jordan Lewis at AFL level in 2018. He's a 4 time premiership player who has played on a season too long and is now capable of not much more than guarding space.

Amen.

Former firefighter Kane Cornes raised our kicking as an issue. Admittedly some of the examples he raised were for mine were about decision making. Ie Oliver, Jones, Brayshaw kicking long inside 50 straight to opponents. Cornes also identified Jack Watts as our best kick of last 10 years. Don't think he has seen Fritsch play!

Lyon used game footage to show the blinding obvious. We commit too many players to the contest leaving their opponents in acres of space waiting to receive the ball and we have no one in space to handball to. Our midfielders are simply not accountable to their opponents. Jones, Brayshaw, Oliver etc. And we're slow on the outside. Brayshaw as one example tracked an opponent through centre square but lost concentration, wandered towards contest on flank, letting the opponent run unchecked into their forward 50. Opponent got the ball in space 20 metres out. Jordan 'Major Tom' Lewis's renowned footy smarts don't extend to picking up a free opponent waltzing into out defensive 50 when he is the spare in defence. He is elite at guarding space I will admit. Goodwin needs to lay down the law. If you keep going to the contest when its not your role you play for Casey. If you don't apply manic pressure to opponents you play for Casey. If you're a one paced inside mid not part of centre square rotations you're not a winger so you play for Casey.

I don't deny that Lewis has footy smarts but in 2018 AFL footy demands a minimum level of athleticism. Lewis does not reach that level. I can't see him matching up with either Butler or Caddy. Butler in particular would be way to nimble for Lewis. If he played on Caddy he'd have to be an accountable man on man defender rather than an inside mid transplanted to quarterback of the half back in twilight of career.

Good luck Trenners!

The following challenge remains open! "The Tigers will name their team tonight. Try and find a Tigers forward Jordan Lewis can keep up with."

The Tigers will name their team tonight. Try and find a Tigers forward Jordan Lewis can keep up with. He is a 4 time premiership player and a great of the Hawthorn Football Club but Lewis is too slow to play at AFL level in 2018. One of the footy shows showed footage of Lewis getting caught out as our deepest defender and having no chance of keeping pace with his opponent charging into their forward 50 as Port rebounded. His footy smarts are now best used as a development coach. Old Father Time catches up with all players. I can understand why he wants to keep playing, lets not forget that he rejected a 2 yr deal to move and we caved and added a year. I don't blame him for that but my expectation of Simon Goodwin is that he will pick the best 22 each week irrespective of reputation. If he keeps picking Lewis then he is not doing that.

Lewis has reached the stage where the best use of his footy IQ is off field. In every game he'll have to try and beat an opponent to the ball. How many Top 8 teams have forwards he can beat to the ball?