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Difference to what? I am not following you. And while I am not going to reveal where I got this information - it is not about his delisting, it is about the year he spent on the Rookie List at Melbourne. It was a story I found unacceptable as a fan of the MFC and the AFL and a lot of it can be relieved by removing the Rookie List. The remainder is up to what culture Roos instills amongst the club. You are the one that wants to go in the alley and measure sources - you need not bother - I am certain of the information. I don't want to go into it further as the kid is no longer at the club.

It's the Board's mistake for offering that extension, not Schwab's ego for taking even while he was not offered it the day before. But remember, that was a contractual 'option' for one year. The worse extension though was the three year extension he was given in 2012 after that year. And he wanted to fix our mess, when do we ever think rationally when we are involved in something that is a passion?

I understand where you are coming from but that extension was not forced upon us by Schwab - the Board gave him that, and they should have moved on. And I don't read malice into Schwab's failure; he was far too invovled in the footy side of things, and far too distracted with small things that a CEO should rarely bother with, and made the fateful decision to employ the mini-disaster Neeld as coach. He wanted to fix the mess, that's why he stayed on - he is a Demon and loves the club - we know from the way he wouldn't shut up about past glories at the club... People, and these Demons, failed with the best of intentions.

Don't get so defensive. I am telling you that a supporter at training may not get the whole truth - hardly groundbreaking. And I can confirm that is the case with Stark. And what have I said in the past that was unfounded? I rarely claim inside knowledge, and I am struggling to think of such an instance that was so erroneous.

They could have got rid of it already if they put a priority on it.

Well, let me attempt to say this delicately - the players are unlikely to spill to a stranger at training are they? I was quite impressed that with all the disharmony with Neeld - the players never publicly let there feelings known. It helped to not have to deal with that during this awful year. Nathan had to endure some issues that I hope can be rectified, but I don't think they will be fully rectified until the Rookie List is abolished.

Jackson mentioned the ASX200 - a group which Webjet is certainly not a member of. That's one whistle or bell that impressed me...

I have my own answers about what happened to Nathan and from what I have heard it stinks. Suffice it to say, those on the rookie list are treated like the underclass of the playing group and if you have the misfortune to be injured then you are ignored almost entirely. The system has more to answer for than the club, but I hope Roos helps build a culture that is more inclusive. And get rid of the Rookie List - any kid that gets taken in the ND gets an automatic 2 year contract, any rookie can end up like Stark - oft injured, and cast off after a year.

Not the backline. High half forward with stints in the middle for 2014. I would love to see what he can do in the middle. The forward line is destined to be his for a decade but while he is being groomed for that - I really think it would be exciting for us, er, him, to be put in the midfield.

He has 5 years. He is less speculative than other would be rookies. What about Nathan Stark? Should be standing up for him to be re-rookied. One year, plagued by injuries, delisted. I hate the rookie list.

Godwin's Law in full flight. It got there quickly. Your allowed to expose your nervousness and others are allowed to admonish without being called a Nazi surely?

The Syndrome or taking the [censored]?

Yes, and the idiots wouldn't have clue of the situation. And the money given to clubs is in the annual report so these idiot journos don't even know that.

It wasn't sarcasm and I object to you putting your outrage above anyone else's - your Seven Year Winter is mine too, and every supporters and, indeed, the employees and Board members (current and former) of the club.

Here is a hint, hh, if a picture has a watermark on it - you need permission to use it. If it is used on a website or forum such as this, it is the owners and moderators of the site in question that is responsible for the infraction. Get it?

His mouse slipped.

You're not the only one who gives money they can't afford to give to the failure that has been this club. And I am not just talking about myself here. See what I am getting at?

My read on this is that Jackson wanted to get a similar amount to what Opel and Webjet were putting in and he didn't want to deal with a company that might be fighting for existence in the short term, he didn't want to wait and try and get a second one, he just wanted to move on and take the solid, if more humble, money from AHG. There hasn't been an explosion of Major Sponsor money but there has been a lift in the solidity and credibility of the partner.

They aren't making them - they are selling them.

I don't think they have. Opel and Webjet were paying in the vicinity of $1m each. It has been mainatained. You say that the 2nd tier sponsors are going to reach a number that is effectively what AHG is paying us - it won't happen. We will hopefully find some more periphery sponsors but we are still a fair way behind the bigger clubs.

I would say it has been maintained. We are giving back and front sponsorship for $2m. That is a million for each side. How is a 2nd tier sponsor going to be paying as much as the Major Sponsor?

Yeah, rah rah.

I hate the Royal Blue jumper. Can someone pass me that bucket - I want to make a sand castle.

Not paging Getty Images?

I think that is it in terms of Major Sponsors. And define 'unaided' - in 2012 we were given approximately $12.6m... Collingwood was given $12.5m. This is from the AFL Annual Report. No club is 'unaided.'