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I prefer Carltons' cravat...

Geelong had first dibs on red and blue though... 1862 Geelong: Should we really be wearing it?

It's not a colour. And it is the colour of the founding of this game and your club.

And imagine what the founders of the club would think, with us playing in that white thing...

Well, I hate to step on that wish but...

Fair enough. I just tire of potential - I want to see some of that talk come to fruition.

You're red and blue, from 1858 to today.

There is inherent risk with the picks we gave up this year too... Battlers they may be but they worked as intended - one is a bonafide leader of men (with trouble staying upright, adding to our collection...), two finished very high in our B+F and the other was a revelation of our dispirited backline. What we did this year excites me more too, young midfielders that may become something. I just want us to develop them, I don't want to waste time on low-end talent, as blunt and rude as that sounds.

That model also brought Dawes, Jones, Clisby and Terlich. And Nasher, yeah it does look better on reflection, however Toumpas, Viney, Salem, JKH, Trengove, Watts, Fitzpatrick, Hogan, Barry, Kent, Tyson, Evans, Michie, Gawn, Riley, and Howe is a lot of young talent that I hold out great hope for but require a great deal of development if we want a few to be what I think they can be.

Quite amazing. 5 games in two years too. He's 27.

I put $10 bucks on last week because I am an idiot.

Your caps lock is on.

Most of us on here are saying 'take his place.' Fans valuing his traits after we went 2 and 20 with an atomic percentage is not a reflection on the fans. I agree that Melbourne supporters wouldn't know a star footballer if one punched us in the face, but valuing traits like his isn't stupid - it might even be a part of Roos' message.

Well, that's disappointingly personal... All I was trying to say is that posters bringing up the end of the club do a disservice to their own argument by making out that those that came before would ride the club past ruin, and into oblivion. That they are as malevolent as many on here think they are. I was just making a point about emotive language. I don't really know what else to say, other than I don't think fans that think like me are the reason we are where we are. I would have moved on past Schwab before he got his 3-year extension, I wanted McLardy to move on once the Schwab situation blew up in his face, and only my desire to not have a caretaker for a majority of the season stopped me from joining the chorus for his removal after the Essendon game.

That is quite the hypothetical. And I know you said 'could' - I took exception to the intimation that we were close to the end of the club. We have survived quite a bit, and we can survive a couple of bad coaches, a decade of terrible recruitment, failed administrations, and a culture of laissez faire development of players for god knows how long. I know we weren't close to the end because I wasn't in Melbourne donating my time, hard-earned, and my loud voice down at AFL House with thousands of other MFC fans. You can say the last few years were a gigantic failure, and you can spin me a story that we were on course for oblivion, but don't expect me to believe it was close. We won't be going down that easily.

Jetta has toughness and a desire to tackle - neither Blease and Stauss have those attributes from what I have seen. Roos might have some pre-requisites to playing, and they are probably closer to Jetta's attributes than the other two.

Is it? And when looking for the article remember that Frawley is RFA.

That first line is a bit facetious. If your team cannot spread after winning the footy, you won't get it anywhere and you will turn it over. I agree that winning the footy is important, but you need the other half of the offensive side of footy to maximise what you have 'won' and score. When we talk about the importance of kicking in today's game it is because there is so much ball in space and the need to hit targets when you should hit targets is more paramount. It is also easier to improve that side of a teams offensive game. While it is difficult to improve a players contested footy quickly - a desire to work hard and run can improve their ability to get the footy in space and use it to the teams benefit. I mention that last line because it is something that Roos will be able to instill more quickly than being better with the contested footy - all it requires is confidence and the desire to run and work hard. Any body shape can get UPs at any age, whereas winning contested footy requires players predisposed to winning it and they are better served if their bodies can handle to work in there. The best teams will be proficient in both, they are both important to winning games of footy.

It's the ave contested and uncontested ball winners in the AFL. I missed Cross in the Uncontested Possies: he would come in just behind Clisby in that stat.

Can I say that they are both of equal importance. Winning contested footy gets you the ball, but running to space and 'spreading' would be the 'keeping' part. You can't get it started without winning contested footy, but the middle and the end (goals) require run and spread.

All we ask is that you don't put words in our mouths - I would say, and have said, that to any poster. Especially since you like repeating what these fans say to players.

One of only 4 from our team in the Top 100 ave Contested Footy.

Uncontested footy is the easier aspect to make quick progress in. If Roos can get some confidence into the midfield group and they spread and work hard, then things get easier for all concerned including a bloke in his second year. Contested footy is a more individualistic trait in my opinion (you need others to help you get an UP, but not a CP), and harder to improve.

I can stomach the point scoring, but don't tell me this. If 'we could well have' lost the club - it would take more than what we have seen recently. I wouldn't let this club go without clawing, giving, stealing, and fire-breathing just like thousands of others. We weren't at that stage so don't intimate we were.

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