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We have the best CHF of this generation - we do not have a 'need' to take a tall forward at 3.

If Carlton nominate Mills, Sydney will burn through all of their picks and will have picks ~76-82 to fill their list. They will take a deficit of 52 into nest season's first rounder which won't dent picks 1-12 but will push 13-18 down a place. I am not certain what happens if they trade away their first rounder, it may simply affect 'their next pick' or the aFL might say it will affect their next '1st rounder' whenever they take one to the draft. The maximum deficit a club can take into next year is 1728 so if Dunkley is a FS and is nominated by a club with picks 2-6 (Pick 1 being Sydney now with Mills) - Sydney WILL NOT be able to meet that bid and that club will take Dunkley.

They will be 40 and 44 but with 5 players taken before that that we had little chance to acquire.

If the following kids go in these spots; Hopper (GWS) at 4, Mills (SYD) 5, Kennedy (GWS) 11, Hipwood (BL) 15 and Keays (BL) 18 (pulled from a phantom on Big Footy) then the draft will look like this: Hopper burns through 10 and moves 34 to 42 for GWS. Mills burns through 33, 36, and 37 moves to 61 for Syd. Kennedy burns through 42, 43, and 53 moves to 72 for GWS. Hipwood burns through 38 and moves 39 to 72 for BL. Keays burns through 40 and moves 41 to 64. This needs to be cleaned up when I know how it functions in a bit more clarity but essentially, our pick at 46 is now 35 and 50 is 39. So people feel better with 3, 7, 35, and 39?

The GWS twitter peeps replied with "*when"... Good fun.

Ok, so I am unsure of the ins and outs and I have tweeted Patrick KEane about whether or not Sydney's matching of Mills by using 33, 36, and 37 as an example, will turn the Lions 38 into 35 with the equivalent points. I really hope they thought about this... As for the Dees - let's say that these teams burn through 9 of the 13 picks before our 3rd pick at 46. That would turn our pick 46 into pick 37 in a proverbial instant. I am just eager to know where these picks will end up but I am also interested more broadly too in what it will look like.

Ok, now that the craziest Trade Week ever is consigned it is time to look at the points system and how it will work. I would like to run through the scenarios of where players will go and what will happen to those picks that get eaten up by a bid from a rival club. Sydney, GWS, BL, and GC all have Academy players that will fall in various spots - could those that know more than I give me an idea of an approximate spot in the draft that they will go and we can work from there? Sydney has 33, 36, 37, 44, 54, 69, and 72 that are worth points. GWS has 10, 34, 43, 53, 55, 58, 63, 64, 65, and 70 BL have 2, 38, 39, 40, 41, and 42 GC have 6, 16, 29, and 56. Two things to consider; 1. There is a maximum 'deficit' that a club can take into next year (1728 - this fluctuates with in-traded future picks). http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-12/afl-closes-draft-bidding-system-loophole 2. That deficit will be paid starting in the Round that the bid came from that caused the deficit (if a Rd 3 bid put Syd into deficit, their Rd 3 and onward picks next year will take the burden, not their 1st rounder). http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-08/league-adds-safety-net-to-draft-future-picks So who are these kids and where are they rated, and let's find out what that will mean for the draft.

If Petracca is fit - he will be playing round 1. All players being fit and ready to go: Backs (6): McDonald, Garland, Jetta, Dunn, Lumumba, and Melksham. Mid Rotation (9): Jones, Vince, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Vanders (F), Trengove (F), Bugg (B), and Salem (B). Forwards (6): Hogan, Garlett, Dawes, Kent, Watts, and Petracca. Ruck (1): Gawn It's getting tougher to do these which is good - and I haven't included Pick 3 as I don't really think Roos wants that unless the door is being banged down. Some of these are my desires with Salem in the middle, Trengove back with no worries, Bugg in the middle, and Petracca given a forward role.

Well, it is irrelevant; Mills and Dunkley if they meet him will be the only players in the top 70 they will get. Essentially, it is making them pay a high price for these talents and that is what is happening.

White has agreed to be on the RL for another year. I expect to see Harmes has agreed to an elevation and two year contract any day now.

He would have decent peripheral vision, fitness, and adherence to strict instruction to play at a high level of Bball, but that's about all you can read into it as far as how he adapts to footy. Most bball players I have come across that move into footy are all over the talent spectrum but they all really buy into the structures - makes sense to them coming from bball.

I have heard similar things - Hogan always mentions him as well when mentioning the prospects of the forward line. Structure requires roles to be fulfilled - you don't need world beaters everywhere. And we already have one down there...

Hyperbole. There is a required role to be played and he, Pedersen, and/or Frost are the players that can fill that role. Frost is not a good enough forward from his limited time up there. If Pedersen's form keeps Dawes out of the team then great - but he isn't 'completely ineffectual' and he will play games. And he will play in games that we will win.

I believe his player sponsor informed me he was OOC in 2015. I initially had him OOC in 2016.

Sometimes basketball clubs/academies measure blokes "with shoes on" as they would rarely play without them...

I will give you a run through - if we go for Mills at ND3 the Swans have to meet 2234 minus 25%: 1675.5. That will consume picks 33, 36, 37, and move 44 back to 53. If they need to fill out their list - they will do it at the end of the draft. We will have ND4 suddenly, as Sydney is installed into ND3 to take Mills. No brainer from Sydney to take him with those picks. From there they will have around 322 points for any other Academy players and, this is an important point, any club can take a deficit into the next draft.

I don't know what you guys are talking about - there is only one Kennedy...now.

haha. Wow. Who mentioned this in another thread? Good work. Not hoping for much but there is your Howe replacement if he has decent mitts...

Carl trade 20, 21, and 2016 Pick ~60 for WB 11 and 2016 Pick ~47.

Eagles swap 36 and 37 for Sydney's 23.

I don't care about picks outside of the top 20 and players outside the top 15 are interchangeable and replaceable - if you want to change your fortunes it is all about Top End Talent. All we have done is take 2016's ND8 or ND10 and turned it into ND3. We have shuffled some fringe players out and in - and I hope that Bugg and Melksham can add depth to our midfield and HBFs. That's not nothing. But we haven't got the huge talent we wanted but that doesn't mean you get marked down - you can only deal with what is in front of you and we played this points system much better than any other team and better than I thought we would. And again, all we have done is turn ND8-10 into the third pick in the draft for nothing. Oh, wait - that's good.

That trade involved ND10 to GWS for ND7. ND10 was received in the trade with GC that required ND29. ND29 was received in the trade with Collingwood/Adelaide/Port that required Howe and/or Toumpas. Take out a 'mediocre trade' from that and it affects the last trade and we wouldn't have ND3 and ND7.

So you like the last trade - but not the other trades that had to happen to do that last trade?

And to those that say "but isn't this years draft shallow?!" Shallow implies that it is not very deep - good thing our picks are in the top 7 then...

No games, don't overthink it - just pick the bloke you think will be the best footy player available at that pick. Big bodied mids win tough footy, finals are tough footy. Just keep that in mind...