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Love rumours. Happy to have them. My only comment: It's 'Dees.' It's a C-apostrophe! Haha... ... But, seriously, change it.

Would prefer to lose Frost and Kent than Watts and a pick. I would do the Watts deal for Lever but would want to move on Frost anyway so it would make sense to include him in that deal. IF he decides to come to the Dees of course.

I think he has him now. Just a great team player who usually does exactly the right thing and has enough confidence to do things that some leave to others.

Makes sense that Collingwood would want him. Every team would want him.

Yeah, I just think we have an opportunity to run on Subi. Hard to pressure in packs on a bigger ground like we did today. More room, more 1on1s. I would go with a team with enough run. Don't know whether Bugg out and Gawn in changes the ratio...

On Subiaco?

This post has aged well... Seriously, though, can we fit Gawn, Pedersen, Watts, Tom Mac, Oscar Mac, and Frost? Good thing we don't have a hulking gun forward to fit back in...

Yeah, a few things: Tom is the better player. Oscar is a promising kid who is developing at a normal rate. Oscar is not best 22 in 2017. He is progressing well and the fact that he is 'making so many mistakes with the he footy' as 21 year old with 26 games is a good sign. The hardest thing in footy is getting the footy. But his brother and Frost are ahead of him in the backline for talls and they are more dynamic and versatile. Hibberd, Jetta, Salem, and Hunt are starting 18 backs and will make it hard for us to play the big three down back.

I am going to stand up for tackles here, tackles are great. Leaves tackles alone!

I think this would be a by product of his role in contests - we want him on the end of handpass out of traffic not in there competing and tackling to handpass out...

Bump. Finally showed up... Welcome.

Not even. Different drafts.

Brayshaw has the potential to be an A grade mid - they don't grow on trees. i hate it when people say - 'we can find a mid anywhere'... You won't stumble across a rolls Royce often and mids win flags.

Double bump. You know you have been here a long time when you can do that... I don't agree with you, Wise - CB is usually positive but like all of us, has his bugbears - one of them are the basic things that excellent teams don't do but we just can't get out of our habits. Saw those bad habits on display yesterday - and yes, we are few months younger than the average AFL team - pointing out those habits helps explain performance like yesterday, and the difference between seasoned teams that will beat us this year and us.

We didn't get in the way of players developing themselves - Jones, McDonald, Garland, et al. So that in itself makes it better than our drafting - we were terrible. I don't want to start a 'drafting' vs 'development' argument because you need both but the raw materials are delivered through the draft and we didn't get them in to even experience our poor development...

And then re-started in 2014 when Roos turned him into one of those Sydney Defender Robots that just do everything right and don't get beaten.

@45HG

Lots of 'tea leave reading' going on here. It's just ignorant extrapolation.

Why don't we all take a holiday?

I believe in Jesse.

...that you know of ...that the media pumps up. God, you post some nonsense from time to time.

That is 15% of the cap in 2016. In 2018, the first year of that hypothetical deal, that number might be down to near 10%, and the value will only improve over the life of that deal. I don't know what deal is being presented but if Hogan is asking for THAT much, we should be asking for THAT long to do that deal.

If not for his suspension, he would be playing in that backline, being a part of what is going on and you lot would be grooming your pincers talking about how good "the recruitment is 'round ere, these days..."

If Viney has a case to answer, that is where I would head for his defense - the guy stayed short - kept his knees bent and was trying to milk a reversal by going down like the proverbial. He should have retired last year.

The NBA are doing it that way. Salaries that are agreed will not increase with the cap - this is why LeBron James has been signing one year contracts for the last two years so he gets the maximum possible each year (the cap in the NBA is about to jump from $58m to around $91m). I think the AFL will do something similar to the above. So that means that I don't think it is wise to have an agreement with 1 player about their salary being a percentage of the cap when other players won't have that luxury. I also don't think we should be trailblazers by giving all our players a bump if other clubs are not forced to - it will give other teams a competitive advantage over us to suddenly have $3m in cap space.