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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

I'm not completely writing off Rosman but he was undeniably a risk-reward gamble and I'm comfortable to say he remains as that level of a gamble. I'm completely fine with the strategy of using a pick every now and then on a potential freak, but I still think it's long odds to pay off. Hunt did nothing for 2 years and whilst it's been bumpy since has paid off. I think Rosman's around that mark. JJ was underwhelming in year 1 too, so, sure I get your point. He was a December birthday with a lot of work to do physically. Rosman walked in as the best runner on the list and with some strenght.

The premiership has made a lot of people on here act like the club can't do any wrong and are completely infallible. Any hint of criticism gets jumped on at a rate of knots. 

I think I've been more loyal to Goodwin than the vast majority on here. I think Jason Taylor is a freak, but I don't think pointing out that whilst he's clearly in the best tier in the business he's still human. That doesn't mean I wouldn't worship the ground he walks on.

And my original point for where this Rosman discussion stemmed was that Jason Taylor has been like Bradman at recruiting but the wing has been a bit of a bodyline for him. Howes is a serious talent and a fairly decent pick in a deep enough draft and with JT's record I expect him to pay off where other moves at finding wingers have yet to pan out.

If JT can keep his perfect 2nd round draft record going and fill a need with a versatile winger than he'll only go higher up as a phenomenal recruiter and the team will only be stronger.

Every player drafted is a risk reward gamble. When you have JT the odds are stacked in your favour.

Given the number of home grown WA players on our list and the quarantine requirements to enter the state.

Does anybody know the club's stance on WA players going home to visit family over Christmas?

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Did you watch much Casey? Apart from one game against a hapless North side Rosman looked totally lost. The traits are great but he makes Baker look good in the contest. 

Of course Langdon was worth paying for, but we don’t have the 600k+ and an early 2nd round pick to offer up for a guy like that now. We’d have to trade our first and clear cap space. When you’ve drafted Oliver, Petracca, Salem, Jackson etc you can make a move like that, if you’re constantly at the top of the ladder you can’t.

Just look at the Cerra situation. We didn’t have the draft capital to grab him even when he was available cheaply.

JT’s entire strategy with this draft was to get cheap needs based picks so we can keep the list together. If we have to make aggressive moves to fill needs we might have to push out players and that’s how you get in trouble. 

Unfortunately, due to living in the most locked down city in the world I haven't seen much of Casey over the last 2 years.

In the rare opportunity I got to see Rosman in match simulation at training he looked good and on tv he played well in the game for Casey I watched.

You seem to always look for a negative. I don't think you understand JT's draft strategy and the fact we keep retaining and gaining players suggests we won't be pushing players out as you suggest.

57 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Stretch no good, Baker and Rosman not looking promising - I know that’s an early call on Rosman but he was miles off in the VFL. The 35 different options we used in 2019 like Wagner and Dunkley not working out.

JT’s been much better getting mids and flankers through the draft than wingers

It took paying top dollar for Langdon and shifting Gus to really fix it but to stay at the top we need cheaper home grown options pushing up.

 

Rosman looks the goods to me.

Saying we paid top dollar for Langdon is ridiculous. We paid top dollar for May and Lever too. All 3 premiership players seem pretty cheap now.

You can afford to do that when you recruit brilliantly in other positions and need to fill a deficiency.

6 hours ago, Doggas front teeth said:

I'd give Tommy Sparrow the opportunity to move up to no.2, he seems like a worthy man to continue the Chunk legacy

He should stick with 32. Think of the fans.

I'm still stuck with 37 on my jumper for big Maxy.

58 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Woey jnr is a fair bit shorter than his old man even taking into account he is barefoot.

Wonder if he still has some growth left in him. Woey snr didn't really blossom until he was 21.

In the leadup to the GF there was alot of talk about the past players WhatsApp group. I imagine they would be going off tonight

8 minutes ago, Daniel Dee Demon said:

Technically no. But we don't need one. Taj will be the last pick in the draft.

Just waiting for the welcome to the MFC TAJ thread.

54 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/blake-howes/

Decent write up, like the sound of him. Trust the recruiting team

I haven't seen him play, I'm happy to say that up front.

What surprises me in the bio it says improvements (weakness) is contestested footy 

JT normally only takes competitive players who love contested footy even if they play on the outside.

29 minutes ago, monoccular said:

As I understand the Jackson family are looking at real estate in Melbourne - maybe the van Rooyens will too?

The lot of them should just move in with Stick's Brayshaw

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I think you’re being tough with our boy JVR, noting that he was diagnosed with glandular fever in May and that illness can knock you about even if you’re a fit young person. That makes his efforts both in the WAFL Colts and for the WA Under 19s even more admirable. I did watch him in those state games and he was impressive in both in defence and attack. Moreover, my understanding is that he was sent down back after already proving himself as a forward at Colts level and in earlier state games to test his capability in defence. He not only did that but also from memory was sent forward late in the game and kicked the winning goal. He’s gone a long way to proving his versatility and he’s lucky to be at Melbourne where there’s absolutely no pressure on him to hold a place in the senior straight away.

Didn't Clarry have glandular fever at the beginning of his draft year as well?

On the AFL website they have done the top 10

Sorry I misread it. They were saying will they go as predicted and listed club and player.

On 11/12/2021 at 12:14 PM, Jaded No More said:

I assume the club is waiting for the magic 90% double dose mark when crowd limits disappear in Victoria to make further announcements. 

We are currently tracking to hit that around 21/11.

 

Or Somyurek to completely snooker them and a need to change the news cycle.

Either way I don't care.

Let's all get there and celebrate.

Surely lifting the premiership cup should have been in the season highlights for big Maxy.

Sorry if this an ignorant question but when you are heading towards a premiership I had much less focus on the draft this year.

I imagine WA and QLD u18's played this year but Victorians would have played little in the last 2 years. Is that correct?

Can someone who has watched young Woey more than me explain why he has explosive pace and his bio has a strength being a penetrating kick but an improvement (weakness) hurt factor?

When we talk about strong preseasons we think about fitness and weight rooms.

Weid needs a strong preseason between the ears. 

You don't win premierships unless you have the best players. It's no coincidence that Oliver won the coaches award the year we win a premiership.

@Skuitis the clear winner for pub fights or UFC.

@WERRIDEE is the best team for mine but it hurts because doesn't have Oliver.

40 minutes ago, Macca said:

There were 2 other drafts in the early 80's (not talked about much or even heard of)  Might have been '81 & '82 (for interstate players only)

With one of our early picks in those 2 drafts we picked Alan Johnson.  But I'm not sure whether any of those players in those 2 drafts were tied to clubs or obligated to those clubs

Although AJ did end up playing for us of course

Danny Hughes was another

After this year I need to reasess my favourite MFC players. Alan Johnson is still up there. I am wearing number 9 in alot of childhood photos. It was before Neitz and clearly Johnson.

I can't wait for our next grand final where a player kicks 6 and nobody thought he would win the Norm Smith.

I'd be looking at Bailey's brother as a rookie this year who apparently kicked 20 in a game during the season.  Or at least get him to Casey.

You would be filthy if you were a Brisbane supporter and Casey Voss goes on to play for another club.

Let's be honest we all care more about the 20m sprint because of Taj Woewodins time.

In horse racing you line up form based on sectionals at any given track. If you race at a different track you can't really compare the times.

Young Woey is obviously quick and I'm pretty confident we will pick him up BUT there seems to be alot of WA boys featuring in the 20m times. Better deck?

JT seems to have an emphasis on drafting highly competitive players but also players who blossom late. He talks about it alot when interviewed and has said Taj Woewodin really showed improvement in the late part of the season, which is a dead giveaway we will pick him under F/son.

Sam Peaa has clearly blossomed late. If he has a competivee streak in him he will be on our radar.

If we didn't get our culture, coaching and development right Sparrow and JJ could be on the scrap heat.

Now they are waiting in the wings of a dominant midfield and can seriously look at becoming a part of a dynasty.

You need alot to go right and the dees are ticking those boxes at the moment.