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That makes a lot of sense! Sounds like an interesting read. Someone on here posted something a few years back and it really stuck with me. From memory, a person was having a conversation with a player from a rival club in the 90’s about the Dees. And that player said something like, ‘Melbourne players for some reason are quite arrogant even though the club hasn’t really done anything for decades‘. Kinda gave me the impression that for some players, just playing AFL was the end goal. Which to what you’re saying, probably comes from somewhere? Sorry if it’s not totally connected, just popped into my mind from your post.

That Petracca explanation of his silence being, ‘nobody in the press asked’, is one of the best things I’ve read on Demonland! I imagine Tracc sitting at home, watching all of these completely made up stories, saying to himself ‘man I wish someone from the press would just ask me! None of this is true! But what can I do? I have no way of communicating to large groups of people telling them I’m definitely staying at the Dees’ *posts a food recipe on his Instagram to hundreds of thousands of people* Oh yeah I remember that time Pert, Goodwin and Roffey all came out and in the strongest terms said this entire situation is just a fiction made up by the media. That’s definitely a thing that happened. “He’s a contracted player at our club, as I said, we love him, and we’re working through it with him, with the player leadership group, with the coaches, and you know, we will find a resolution to this,” Roffey said. Weird how Roffey talked about finding ‘a resolution to this’ (player leadership group AND coaches no less) in the Whateley interview when this entire thing is just made up by the media. Almost the exact opposite of ‘denied it all along’ 🥴

I think if max says he doesn’t want to do it or doesn’t feel capable of doing, then it’s time to move on. If he does want to and does feel capable, he’s captain in 2025. It’s up to him and I don’t have any reason to doubt his judgments.

Do you believe this whole thing is a media fabrication? There are no aspects to any media reports that are true?

So let me get this straight. When the idea that this whole fiasco has been simply a media fabrication is put forward… and I point out that neither Tracc nor MFC have come out for weeks to say it isn’t true or challenged the veracity of any claims, despite being one of the biggest stories of the last few years and has seen Traccs reputation and MFC’s reputation being publicly trashed from all sides: Your question in response to me, is if I believe footy media absolutely and in its totality akin to gullivers travels… No I don’t. In turn: Do you believe this entire story is built solely on media speculation? There’s zero truth to anything being said in the media about any of this?

Everything is relative right?

Hey I’m wrapped he’s staying! I just see a gaping hole in the logic that this whole thing was a media beat up considering we’ve been battered from post to post for the last few weeks, when seemingly if it was a media beat up, we just allowed spurious and unfounded allegations to go unchallenged? Didn’t quash them weeks ago? That makes absolutely zero sense.

So the board got Tracc on board in line with the board. I like it.

I guess that works, except it doesn’t explain why Tracc didn’t quash all the bulltish reports and why nobody from the club challenged incorrect reporting for almost the entire time the most intense focus has been on us for years? If it was all just made up, there’s no reason to have handled things by either party, the way they have been handled. That doesn’t make sense.

Melbourne has two boards?

I think you’re right, there’s probably ‘consumer fatigue’ about all this for now. But it’s now in a collection of (real or perceived) demons club issue that this will parenthetically be brought up with any negative demons news and/or, slow news days. Still a lot of club issues to be resolved and one in particular that is going to go through the courts seemingly. I’m buckling myself in for a big year in 2025 personally.

There’s enough ammunition because of Traccs silence (statement of fact not an allocation of blame) to question if he’s only staying because he couldn’t get a trade. ’Just how committed is Tracc for 2026’ will be the question all year I suspect.

Go out and buy a home theatre package immediately please. Enough so there’s no MFC controversies for 50 years.

Couldn’t pull a deal with BomberBlitz?

*MoeSyzlak dies in a freak bin related incident*

There’s a defamation court case looming over all of this, which is seemingly inevitable. The media is going to go to town on it and could dwarf this situation incredibly. If we think there’s pressure on us now, just wait until all of our dirty laundry is aired in a court case for the media to sift through. All the questions, all the innuendo, all the ‘what did X know’ etc. etc. etc. etc. Hopefully it’s not during the season I guess? I don’t have all the answers to this, but reviews/resignations/sackings is going to happen at some stage. We can get in front of that situation now for the sake of the club and move on from this administration and get in a ‘fresh start’ or we can hope the current administration can not let it affect the club whilst still being in charge… How’s that going right now? Change is inevitable and things are without a shadow of a doubt going to get very very messy.

‘I listened to what she said there and it’s just not true, I mean, there is no proper meaningful correspondence between CP and the club right now, so when she says it’s an open forum and this is a football matter, he’s not communicating anything as he doesn’t trust these people at the moment’ Interesting quote by Barrett.

What a perfect year of AFL football. There has never been a football of AFL like this football year of AFL.

FFS this is amateur hour. If you’re going to do an interview, representing the club in a time of (perceived or real, take your pick) turmoil, you don’t add to the turmoil by not having all your ducks in a row and being consistent in answering very straightforward questions. Does anybody have their hands on the steering wheel?

Well there’s a big big sound

Freo are choking badly here

EAT [censored] CARLTON AND YOUR SCUM FANS

Urghhhh he’s in trouble just from the very last action as far as I can see. Yes Moore ducks at the last second but if you watch the replay, Moore continues at the ball but kozzie pivots direction on his left foot away from the ball and towards Moore and ends up going across him. If he continued to run in the direction of the ball, he would’ve had a chance to argue it was more of a ‘collision’ rather than a hit to Moore. The argument will be that Kozzie initiated the contact when he had another option, not change direction and instigate contact first. Reverse the jumpers and make it a prelim final though and we would not have the same outcome in terms of weeks. Would be ‘nah the Melbourne player dropped his knees, it was his fault’ 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

I 100% get what you are saying, but all the vetting in the world can fall short when it comes to someone’s mental state, which put under pressure like an on air interview, can change very quickly in it’s stability. Especially if mood swings are at play which can happen in a matter of seconds. The fact he said yes and withdrew is not a good sign. I’ve made the point Traccs silence means he wants to leave and I now recognise that (even if it’s true) is a massive secondary issue compared to his mental health. So personally I don’t feel comfortable in speculating about anything that’s going on. I’m sincerely not casting aspersions on you or other posters, but I’ve been getting weird vibes for a number of days about questioning why he is or isn’t doing things but that’s just me. I legitimately just want him to be ok as this has all the makings of being way more serious than footy.

He may not be psychologically ready/able/willing enough to do a live interview? He went through a life threatening situation about 3 months ago. That can really affect a person. It has nothing to do with being a maturing man or a leader. Mental health issues can be crippling and can happen to anyone. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is immune from mental health issues.