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Out: this absurb game plan of fast movement, handball chains and corridor with cringe worthy skills. Humiliation. Delusion that we can play this way. In: contest defence, playing to the strengths of the playing list. winning by boredom. 4 points. respect. Not going to happen so look away now.

That was an embarassing quarter. For the Suns. OUTSCORED LOL

"Brisbane, the fastest team in the competition last year. Sydney, the second slowest, but both of them are the highest scoring teams. “So you look at the second slowest with Sydney, it’s not a negative, that is just how they want to play, it’s working for them. You go to the year before, Collingwood were actually the third slowest team in the competition, but it got them the flag." At the very least, the way they are calculating this new metric doesnt sound like something that is necessarily correlated with success but nevermind, lets continue to pray at the ball movement altar.

NM (mel) Scoring from def - 38 (22) From fwd - 44 (30) From centre - 43 (14) Scoring from Stoppage - 69 (17) Scoring from Turnover - 60 (43) My own opinion is that we have prioritsed ball movement (in this forum and the coaching staff) in the past 12 months and thats been a SIGNIFICANT detriment to our turnover differential, where the game ultimately matters. We just dont have the right players in the right period of their careers for this game plan. Hope im very wrong.

Fully respect this point of view but this is not the make up of the current Premiers. Maybe the exception that proves the rule, but the Lions 24 were a high mark, high kick, high clearances, low defensive 50 rebound, low handball and low intercept team. They got the ball inside 50 and relied on some contested marking strength. The 'modern' game (statistically at least) is about outscoring your opponent on turnovers, theres a few ways to do that still.

I do! We've not lost to them since Trump was a 'thing'. We are playing at our home ground against an interstate team that didnt make the finals and we are finals aspirants ourselves. Their top 6 are mostly butchers (albeit decent) but their bottom 6 are no better than ours. I'm all for heart and effort but this one is a must win. Non negotiable. Do not let King win them the game. Do not let Sexton kick 4 cheapies. And do not leave Anderson unchecked from stoppages, he's an absolute gun.

An odd metric to rank a player's value as we dont know his specific role but anyway. He's had 96 and 97 in the past 2 weeks and over 100 against the Pies last year. So basically 3 in the past 5 games if you consider that coming close.

Good point re old dogs and new tricks. Its simply not that easy to significantly change your skills and decision making under pressure after you're in the afl system for 5 years. But yes, Goody is under pressure cause he keeps putting round pegs in square holes. Thats on him. Geelong, Pies, Swans... can u tell me their starting cba midfield this week? I cant. Also, the 'learnings' mantra has lost its resonance. What a load of nonsense its become. Case in point (and I apologise for the pile on here on JV but it illustrates a point). Viney had a shocking end of the 3rd. Ok, skill errors happens. Its happened now for 5 years but it happens. 'Learnings'. I'm sure it was mentioned at 3 qtr time. Then, middle of the fourth quarter then he gets the ball off half back, under some pressure in a pack but not heavy. And without looking, he torpedoes down the line to 3 norf players?!?! Where and what exactly has been learnt? Having said this, this is the one week we do not want to change the midfield mix. GC mids are bulls and butchers the same as us, but ours are a class above which is why we havent lost to them for 10 years. (and JV to be in our best)

I disagree he has lost the players. He (and the rest of this forum) is asking the players to play to a game plan they are simply not capable of at AFL level consistency. Bowey kicks through the centre to avoid down the line 'boredom'. Turnover goal. Woewodin asks for a handpass through the centre to avoid down the line "boredom' . Turnover goal. Langdon switches to avoid down the line 'boredom" . Turnover goal. Amd when we are going through the centre, Viney, Oliver and Sparrow are bombing it to Norf's spare. What did supporters expect. The list was built for contest and defence not skills and transition. Some weeks it will work. Some weeks we will get slaughtered. Welcome to the 2025 season.

A grown man yelling at other grown men because his favourite colours didnt win. Lol. Thats the embarassment.

I think there is. Its been a problem for years. For all the bemoaning of our forward line and its stucture and personnel, we've had the same look in the midfield through this time. Langford today was good, but he's not Lindsay in terms of thought process and execution. We need to throw him the keys.

We could have 3 v 2 in the forward line. If the wrong guy has the ball kicking it in it doesnt matter. We dont have enough guys that know how to kick to advantage, especially under pressure.

Cant drop Viney. But as a coach you should know your players and as a midfielder in a fast transition game style he is wrong guy to have the ball in hand. He should play high hf role replacing Chandler. Sparrow stays to tag one of the gc bulls otherwise we're too light. Sharp probably gets lucky but I thought Mentha showed a bit. I'd have him as the sub for Woewodin for some late pace. AJ to come in for Jefferson, cause.... who else. But really the big one is Lindsay to play as many minutes as possible thru the midfield.

We didnt get that pantsed. We had more inside 50s. Problem has been the same for many years. Wrong guys call for the ball trying to get stats. Theres a reason why the opposition coaches let them have the ball.

Ya. And this should be the starting on ball next week if not for the rest of the year.

Huge yes. I don't quite understand the negativity to trying it. Just try it for a half or a game under the right match ups. If it works you have a weapon (Sicily), if it doesnt you learn something and try a different path (Mcvee, Tommy Mccartin). If your season is shot by moving a player for 1 match, then you dont deserve to win a flag. Not asking Spargo to play ruck here, although id love to see that too for different reasons.

Lappin!!! So far ive read him also conpared to Reid, Walsh, Kelly, a Febey, Xavier Tanner, Billings, a Tears for Fears guitarist and more. What the heck ill join in, he reminds me of Fraser Gehrig. All aboard the X-train!!

So they're potentially even weaker yep. One of our first round KPF draft pick (pick a KPF any KPF) has to dominate against a bunch of defensive misfits. Agree on the clearances but i think we may need to get used to it. Our midfield is 4 years older from '21 now and many other midfields units match ours sadly (apart from Max). Re Larkey, youd think Lever iwould be aware of the Larkey risk with no May. I reckon he will be rolling over to help Petty out as much as possible so its up to the rest of the backline to then cover for Lever. We need to be switched on and not think this is an easy win, Clarkson is no rookie.

2024. After the 25 minute mark.... MFC - 347 points Opposition - 292 points 12 'wins' 10 'losses' 1 'Draw' Having said that, I think the Giants were fitter last week due to the run in the opening round and Kingsley even flexed that in his pre match.

I actually dont think we have an edge in midfield. Their centre square bats deeper than ours. Sheezel, Powell, Simpkin, Ldu, Xerri. Luke Parker is a pretty handy big bodied 5th midfielder. (They were 4th in centre clearamces last year). Where we sinply have to win is up forward. Comben and Archer have played less than 30 games. Corr and Logge are not world beaters. This is the game where JVR, Fritta or Pickett (#$@!) kicks 4 or 5 and we win by 30. Truth is we are going to get plenty of decent looks, its up to our forwards to put up 100 points. They had 100 points kicked against them 18 times last year. . If we kick 10.14 under the roof against that defence I'm scared for the Demonland data servers.

the only surprising thing about the way it ended was that it wasnt Toby Greene kicking the winning goal. 11 touches in the last? We dont have a match up as feared prematch. Debutantes were great. AJ gives 110 percent but might break the record for frees against in a single season. He's got to find a way to compete against 2nd rucks without holding. Perhaps a tad harsh but underwhelmed with Langford. At junior level being a big body can hide your lack of pace but around the stoppages there was no spring in the heels. Macth committee will have a decision to make. He needs to play but rather he play at casey than sit on a bench every week for 3 quarters? Ofc Lindsay. Kick the ball his way. Nuff said. Next week under the dome will be a mucb faster end to end game. We need to be ready. Norf have weapons.

Wait until he likes one of trac5's lasagne posts and its so on.

In a lot of ways, the scoreboard and match conditions flattered GWS last week. They def played well but a hot, dry and fast track against a bunch of 30 somethings and an underdone/ injured Daicos played right into their hands. They did show their 1-wood of overlap running and linking by hand. All well and good but the conditions at the G on Sunday will not favour this. If rain is about, this is going to look a very different game. Gws got spanked in contested possession and we should consistently win it at the source and starve their outside game. So if the conditions nullify, to some extent, their fast playing style, I hope we address their 2 other aces. Cant let Taylor dominate for 4 quarters, few intercepts here and there are going to happen but we must direct entries away from him in open play. Cant leave Callaghan unchecked from stoppages. He is so good. If Tony Greene kicks 5 snapping out of packs and they win so be it.. we dont really have a great match up. DEES BY 16.

U didnt like the way Jefferson found separation, first in a long kick to a pack as he read the drop of the ball well before his defender, or when he read that Langford was swinging on to his left and slipped his man to create an uncontested mark on a lead. Finding separation is half the battle and it seems he has that ability.

For sure. But that doesnt stop the fact Freo drafting him for free IF indeed a way of luring Kozi is a very savvy bit of recruiting. Plenty of list cloggers and he is far from the worst. Based on last year they currently hold pick 9. Pre-emptive death ride. Saddle up.