Ollie fan

As i recall it he was in favour of the tanking way back when.... Great player, great supporter, but.....

Don't want him. Can't forgive him for all the rubbish about "I don't know if I'll leave" when he knew perfectly well - and played like it IMHO.

It's truly a process of elimination, isn't it? In which case, out the door go Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane and Hawthorn in a hurry. GWS are inoffensive except for Toby Greene (I have a long memory; enough said). That leaves 3 contenders; I admire John Longmire.

He's a28yo HBF. NOOOOO!!!!!

Surely Carlton losing was karma after that disgraceful act by their "supporter".

What about jail? Is a serious assault!

Disagree about his field kicking. It can be magnificent. His tackling is terrible and his chasing is lacklustre but his field kicking can be up there with Melksham.

My whole interest in footy for the rest of this season is in hoping they go out in straight sets. Huge home ground advantage, if the rumours are half true they subvert the salary cap, and summer the most dislikeable people in the league.

Well, unlike I suspect many of the people on this thread, I have been at the game. All our best midfielders were out. Lever and May were not playing. Free kicks were 3 to one in their favour. We made some terrible errors, but I think our players did their best and I'm not going to criticise them.

Please please please can't we move in from all of this now? If Lawrence wants to stand for election he can do so; if he wins he wins and if he loses he loses.

Surely we learnt from the tanking years: the worst thing you can do is allow a belief that losing is acceptable.

100% agree. Apparently this is a strong draft. Let's get a young gun mid or key back, not a 28yo HBF when we already have Salem Rivers McVee Bowey AMW Taj Howes........

I truly believe you are a Collingwood supporter - you gave it away the other day when you said "we played Daicos in the backline". And no Melbourne supporter could be half as negative and anti-Melbourne as you are.

I thought he was great - he looked and acted like he had been vindicated.

I know you are close to the players but as an outsider I would be staggered off Clarry out Viney goes anywhere. You asked about what Viney said - I think there are links to it earlier in this thread but essentially when asked about leaving he instantly said he wouldn't be but when asked again, he said he would wait until later - words to that effect. Most people think that he had meant that he would be staying but then realised that was ruining his bargaining power so he walked back from it. I agree with that interpretation.

To be fair, he might have thought that if he went he would be a distraction

In JT we trust

Viney Max Langers Turner everyone else

I just love these pessimistic posters, following a massive win like that. TBH you must have a miserable life.

I think he has been incredibly promising.

Because they love to bag the club. Is not what I call support.

So happy with how Tholstrup is looking

You are crazy.

This is such an insulting post. Shame on you!!!! i am turned by the effort they are putting in after the week from hell.

Hate to say it, but I thought Morris sounded reasonable in the interview. The question then is, can we calm Trac down and keep him, or do we trade him? If it stopped us wasting two first-rounders on a half back that we don't need, I think that is a bit of good news among all this!