Ollie fan

Thought the debut of AMW was outstanding

100% correct

I think there are a few posters on this thread who have a bit of humble pie to eat (but they won't).

Well, I for one am thrilled with the effort. Now for the execution.

I too think Pup is unlucky to have been dropped. He was given 10 minutes and could not have done more in that time. (His kick after the free is overlooked a lot: it was a perfect kick that set it up so only Petty could mark it). I can only suspect that they thought: pick him as sub, let him have a taste to see the pace and toughness of senior football, and then he can go back to Casey and work with that knowledge.

Here's a thought that won't go down well on this site: perhaps it was a good but not great list, that was very well coached.

Gawn sooking to umpires? Did you actually see what was being done to him (as it always is!!)? And we are back on the Clarry rumour mill, are we?

I hate it when we are hot favourites.

You are such a negative poster...

Good ruckmen who are prepared to be second string are very hard/impossible to find. The list managers have tried with Schache and with Fullarton; Schache is a fail, Fullarton may be a fail too but we don't know yet for sure. They have recruited Verralls. In other words, they are trying but have not yet achieved the near impossible.

Change the rules so as to eliminate grey areas as much as possible. Get rid of knee jerk rules eg nominating ruckmen. And FFS, pay the frees when they are there!

Well there's a surprise. As I thought.

I wonder what Collingwood's exposure is re Murphy? My guess is: the concessions suit them a lot more than they suit us....

Couldn't agree more

Because it is a waste of Max. He is capable of taking a big mark in the forward line occasionally, and if he is 50+ metres out he might kick the goal, but he is a key player as a ruckman - his tap work, his goal-saving marks in defence, his marking between half back and wing as we come out of defence - these are all the work of s ruckman. Oh, and I forgot the clearances where he kicks it out of the centre himself. Which is why he has been 6 times AA ruckman.

Er, So is Gawn...... Gawn will be the AA ruckman, not Grundy.

Don't be effing ridiculous. As for your original post: how many times does it need to be said?- he is a good ruckman when, and only when, he is the main man. The same is true of Gawn. And the idea of keeping him at Casey just so he didn't go elsewhere: that is a really generous, good-culture thing to do - not! Not even Collingwood descended to that. Do you want us to be lower than them?

The way to get rid of this crud is to start winning. Let's try doing that. I have to agree with one thing: it would be nice to hear from Kate - even if it is just platitudes.

I'm with this, too

Simon panicked??? Simon panicked??? What about all the posters on this site who kept going on and on and on and on about how Collingwood had picked apart our game plan, we needed to move the ball quicker, our defence had been worked out etc etc etc But now the narrative is, we should have stuck with it?

This thread is disgusting. The way he is being discussed is appalling. A few years ago TMac suffered a serious foot injury. For the following two years there was an enormous amount of vitriol directed at him - but look at him now: reborn!! The simple fact is, foot injuries of this type take years for full recovery. MFC supporters should know this: see Trengove, Vandenberg, Viney as well as TMac. Petty will come good. What is certain is that when he does, most of the posters here won't own up to how bad their behaviour has been and how wrong they were.

If there is any coach replacement to be done, it should be at Casey. We need s strong VFL team, as we had before, and Casey started sliding the minute it changed coaches. A strong VFL team, thoroughly trained in the system, provides the base for success. And I don't think it is about personnel; it is about how the players operate within the system.

They've done it for years - worst offenders are Hawkins and Cameron - and I have never ever seen them pinged for it. Sorry, I forgot to mention Dangerfield....

I remember when they brought in the OOF rule and he was asked about it - he said something like "I wouldn't have worried, I was pretty good at the off-break". Great sense of humour...

Sorry to disagree with everyone, but I think it is great. Alistair Clarkson said years ago that if they want to get the game more free flowing, they should enforce holding the ball.