Lord Nev

How would you feel if: a) We traded the pick. b) GC get a priority but have to trade it. They then trade it to WC for NicNat, then WC trade it for Kelly and Geelong end up with pick 2...

I would have thought they went off for operations because they needed them...

The young firecracker has signed a 1 year extension today according to Mitch Cleary.

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With pokies coming out, how do you propose we make up the millions we would lose in income though? And have you seen our record at the G mate? It's very poor. I would wager we're a better chance in NT than at the G.

I hope it does. IMO it makes so much sense from a financial point of view, but I love the link to the community and clubs up there even more, and totally agree the 'Heart Of The Nation' game has really started to become a feature. I love seeing all the blokes talk about their connection to the land and people, and seeing Gilly getting a bit emotional in the pregame is one of my favourite footy moments of 2019.

Didn't realize until today that the game in Alice on Sunday was the last of our current deal with the NT (and AFL). Pert would already have quite the full desk at the moment, and I think this will be an intriguing decision. PJ always seemed keen on it, both as an income generator and from a community interaction point of view, so I wonder if Pert will take the same approach (particularly given our exit from pokies). From memory, our record up there is not too bad (comparative to our overall performances), so I could see it continuing given all the circumstances. There's also the Redtails/Pinktails partnership and our academy link to take into consideration, on top of other programs we've either been part of or initiated. Both Mahoney and Pert have previously made comments about continuing our links up there, but that could always be separated from actually playing games I guess.

Yeah, it's bloody messy that's for sure. From the above article: "Essendon is in a similar scenario to Hawthorn and Melbourne under the new trade conditions. All three clubs drafted two players in the first round in 2015, but the Hawks and Demons haven't used one since and neither has one this year (2018). They can do as they wish with their first-round pick in the 2019 NAB AFL Trade Period, including offloading a future one, because they have used at least two in the preceding four-year period. However, like the Bombers, unless they trade in extra first-round selections this year or next, they will have to start using those picks in 2020 until they satisfy the four-year rolling requirement."

We have to use a pick either this year OR next year. We can trade this year's one as long as we use next year's one. It's a rolling 4 year period with the 'new' rule taking effect from 2020. It's a complicated messy situation, but the short story is we are allowed to trade a first round pick from either 2019 or 2020. Edit - Adding link that might help explain... https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-02/trading-firstround-picks-afls-most-misunderstood-rule-explained

Fair enough mate, can understand that point of view for sure.

Again, his best mate, the president of the club, dying of cancer, asked him to do it. But sure, have a crack at him for trying to help the club he loves in that situation. FFS.

(We're not one of the 'trio' of clubs btw, but stil....)

I never said other players don't have "1% of the passion that he has". What I said was, Lyon seems to always get slammed by Dees fans for not being involved or not being down the club, but as I said, he's down at training more than most other players, and I think it's crazy a former captain and team of the century player cops it from our fans while there's hundreds of former players out there who get a free pass.

Sorry mate, which bit do you mean?

He's always said he doesn't have the skills to be a coach or administrator, why is it so many Dees fans get all upset at Lyon? Plenty of former captains of our club aren't involved, and I've seen Garry at training more than Neitz, McDonald, Grimes and Healy combined. He IS a fan and a past player, that's why he hurts like we do when the club is struggling so badly. I don't understand why he gets singled out for this kind of treatment from fans when there's plenty of former players out there who don't have 1% of the passion for the club that he does.

He reluctantly agreed to do a job that he had very openly said he wasn't qualified for because his dying best mate asked him to. Honestly, pull your head in. That's a horrible thing to criticize someone for.

Fair enough, I can understand that, maybe I'm being a bit harsh and using the '2019 disapointment' lens too much.

Yep, so because he didn't hit the target (Gus, Oliver and Viney are all miles below the AFL average for inside 50 retention) West Coast go the other way and kick a goal that levels the score. I get that it's a hard situation, but that's footy, and that's why we're failing.

Yep, so Gus' shocking kick ended up back in the hands of the man he was meant to be tagging who kicked a goal. You guys can take that as harsh if you wish, but I think it's a microcosm of our season: Horrible delivery forward and no defensive accountability. That's just how I saw it.

Haha well that puts an end to that then!

Can we not start this stuff again? Always find it incredibly unfair when Dees fans smash a great of the club for trying to do a job he openly said he wasn't qualified to do, because his dying best mate begged him to do it.

Yes he has. I watch On The Couch regularly and he's very much criticized how they're coached and their style of play. Who do you think he's talking about when he says those things?

Brayshaw and 3rd round pick to Freo for Hill and Langdon. Outside run ✅ 2nd round pick to Sydney for Zak Jones and their 3rd round pick. Run, HB to either replace Hibberd or free up Salem ✅ That 3rd round pick and ANB to Gold Coast for their 2nd round pick. Back into the draft ✅ Stephen Hill as an unrestricted free agent. Replace Lewis' list spot with a veteran runner ✅ Sam Day as a restricted free agent. Mature key forward depth ✅ Draft Rowell or Green with pick 2 (or 3 if PP happens). Gus replacement ✅ Draft Pickett with 2nd round pick. Small forward ✅ Yeah, I have too much free time to think about these things when we're not winning...

Just because he appointed him (wasn't his first choice btw), doesn't mean he's got a free pass for life from criticism. Where exactly is the conflict of interest? He's a commentator now, not involved at the club at all.

Lever took 9 marks and had a game high 12 intercepts. Few sloppy disposals sure, but I for one was rapt to see him flying for marks again and helping us rebound. Gus just managed 15 touches, including 8 handballs, and his man kicked the go ahead goal in the last quarter when he got caught not running back hard enough. Reckon 'excellent' is a pretty generous summation. We've seen Harmes play the tagging role effectively and still get plenty of the ball, I think we need to raise the bar for our former pick 3 if that was classed as 'excellent'.