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Sounds convincing guys.... I'll await your link before taking your words for it.

Ok, so no source, no effort and more assumptions. For the record, here is Jones on 'On The Couch' in early June saying 'I want to play for a few more years, but will consider what's best for the club'. https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-06-12/rd-12-on-the-couch-nathan-jones

What radio station then? From what I remember, it was on 'On The Couch' around May/June. Happy for you to provide a link though, especially if you're going to roll with insults without backing up your statement.

Don't disagree that we have work to do on our list, I'm just not concerned with unknown writers opinions on a part of our list that doesn't (or shouldn't) have a big impact on our overall success.

I may need to go back and watch it again, but I'm 99% sure he did not say 'another 5-6 years'. Stop trying to over-dramatize things.

I just don't really think a subjective, unquantifiable list compiled by unnamed 'staff writers' of a specific list demographic which isn't generally the part of the list that determines success is much of a worry. Collingwood are 17th on that list and currently sit 6th. The other end of the spectrum is Champion Data rated our current list as best in the competition. People will pick and choose which of those two outlooks they listen to.

Hey I put a lot of hard work into my comment in the other thread! 'As per my previous email.....' Haha

Are we really panicking about an opinion piece like this? Are we really back to thinking of the draft and rising star nominations as our success markers? Drop the 'young and inexperienced' mantra. We've been trying to have a crack at a flag. For too long we've always looked to the future and finally we've started to try and focus on getting actual success and getting a peak age group together rather than just being the perennial 'young talent' club. Honestly have absolutely no problem with not being the highest rated for under 23 talent by "AFL Staff Writers". It's the least of our problems at the moment.

Yes, he implied one area which would improve us. He did not say it's our only problem and fixing that would fix absolutely everything.

That's not what was said.

You would hope every player thinks that, but not sure that Goodwin has totally reinforced it if you look at selection.

Yep, it does. But if you have a more accurate way to quantify kicking, other than a rating based on the difficulty of the kick compared with the expected percentage of a player to nail it, then I'm all ears. And just FYI - rating a list doesn't determine it's performance.

So if you can't tell what the brand is, there is no brand then.

Fake news. "Kick rating takes into account the difficulty of a player's kick and attributes an expected percentage for any player to successfully hit a target in various scenarios. A zero per cent rating means the footballer is performing as expected. The Demons' best performers on this system with a minimum of 100 kicks this year are Nathan Jones (+5.1%), Christian Salem (+3.2%), Bayley Fritsch (+2.6%) and Harmes (+1.3%)." Source

We can. We just have to use a first round pick either this year or next year.

Haven't heard anything about a treatment plan, what's the go there mate?

Not 100% sure on reliability of info, but apparently Sam Weideman's injury from the weekend is a lot worse than expected and he could be done for the year. More related to injury impact rather than concussion as such.

Brand just means what they stand for. Get over the terminology and focus on the point.

You can separate the two though. I don't think anyone would deny the impact our injuries have had this year (not even on Demonland, surely?), but that doesn't mean there aren't other issues also. Our game style has been a mess and the level of confusion among the players on game day is well above the level that could be just explained away with cohesion. The coaching structure changes both midseason and likely at end of season should tell us it wasn't just the injuries.

Look, apologies for maybe coming on a bit strong, it's just a point of frustration with me sometimes with fellow Dees fans that they have a crack at a man who did a lot to turn our club around. Most competitive people can come across as being about themselves. I have no problem with that. It means they have pride in what their doing and want to win. I feel like we don't have enough of that kind of attitude at our club. What 'questionable things' did he do? Of course you can question whatever you like, but isn't it the results that matter?

Not sure on if he's made up his mind just yet, but from what I've heard he does have the passion to get back involved at clubland in some capacity. Won't be with the Dees though.

Roos' situation changed. That happens in life mate. His family were able to stay in Australia due to a massive amount of work put it in by his wife that saw her business really flourish. Worth finding things out before having an uninformed crack at someone. Part of the reason he's looking at getting back involved is how the performance of the MFC has impacted what he considers his legacy. Sure, he has a healthy ego, but you need that to survive in the footy industry where random people you've never met try to pull you down all the time (hint hint). Some people think of that as competitiveness, so not surprising some Demons fans don't recognize it. As for fans chanting his name, please, is that a serious point? Did he initiate that? But again, another Demonald poster potting the person rather than recognizing the comments.

Standard Demonland response. Attack the person making the comment rather than admit the problem.

People are acting like he's demanded 800k. Not like Demonland to overreact I guess... How about we just treat him well and let the bloke finish his career, whether it's 2019 or 2020, with the support of the fans who seem to have forgotten that for a decade he was the only thing we could trust about the club. Honestly think there's a Melbourne supporter condition that seems to manifest itself in delighting in our bad times, wanting us to fail so they can have the 'I told you so' moment and trying to rip down anyone who has shown heart for the club, while simultaneously decrying our lack of 'heart and soul'.