Swooper1987

Sounds as though Richardson lost a bit of faith in him. Doesn't bode well for a chance at Melbourne.

I think he's a bit like Tom McDonald. An elite runner, not likely to kick as many goals as Tom but a competent KP player who needs some freedom through the middle. Many of TMac's really good games were when he started on the wing and drifted forward. I think Tomlinson can be similar - maybe more effective back than forward. What he will do is present as an option down the line. This season other than Gawn, we had nobody do that consistently. I've watched him for a few seasons and while he's no star, I believe he will make us a better side.

He's a solid citizen who's played in three preliminary finals and a GF in the last 4 years and was the Giants best player (and arguably best afield) in the 2017 prelim. He'll be good for the Demons.

Serong, Young or Brodie Kemp. All will be very good players.

Yeah but not 2012 onwards. They are top of the ladder from 2012 to 2019 and haven't done better than 3rd after finals.2011 was the remnants of the Thompson era anyway.

Geelong on top but zero flags to show for it. How Chris Scott has not managed to win a flag with some of the teams he's had ....

He cost us an early second rounder, I'd say we'd get a second rounder back. He's a better player now than when we acquired him.

Other than Gawn not being the outright winner, and Viney being third instead of 5th or 6th it pretty much sums up the season. I struggle to see how everyone in the AFL world from opposition coaches and supporters, fans, the umpires and journalists all had Gawn as clearly our best player, but the match committee thought Oliver was our best player until round 23 when Gawn drew level. Probably says a bit about their collective wisdom. As for Jack, I'm not surprised he made top 5 but I felt Harmes had a better year. Well done to Max, an absolute champion of the game and our 2020 Captain. Well done to Clarry also, but I hope he doesn't interpret the result as an endorsement of his season. He has a lot of work to do on his game to be the player he is capable of becoming.

Brodie Kemp or Hayden Young.

I think he's in the top 3-4 players in this draft. I'd take him and be patient. If not him, then Young.

Always thought this bloke would make a great coach. His best footy moments might still be ahead of him.

I doubt that. Laurie Fowler was a multiple winner.

I was staggered in 2016 when Gawn finished 3rd after a dominant AA year. Somehow Viney won the award that year. Rob Flower won our B&F once and we were absolutely horrible for pretty much all of his career. I'd not be in the least surprised to see some "strange" results this year as well.

Two years ago Tomlinson was just about best on ground in the preliminary final against Richmond. He can play and play very well. He will make our team better and fits easily into our best 22.

I think it'll be 2 (or 3) for 11 and 13 plus Adam Tomlinson with some later round picks also involved. I've heard it a couple of times now.

I think he'll be best on V Sydney round 4, Collingwood QB, Adelaide and then North in the last round. You are right though, He won't win it but he'll do well.

Bump. I still think he'll poll very well in the Brownlow. AFL Brownlow Predictor has him on 23, tied with Grundy. His biggest problem will be that winning sides usually get the 3's. In his best games he has been totally dominant though. I reckon he'll get 4 best ons and a few 2's and 1's. He'll certainly be very close to last years tally of 20. A great effort again by the champ! Also, it was very decent of Grundy to acknowledge Gawn's effort on QB when asked who had won the head to head for the year - "You don't forget 34 possessions". I think these 2 are both stars and have a healthy respect for each other.

What a great achievement for a guy who played in a team that only won 5 games. Only 4 players (Walters, Fyfe, Cripps and Gawn) from the non- finalists. Max is a genuine superstar!

I rate this guy. He's one of the best "down the line" marks in the comp. Other than Gawn, since we lost Hogan we don't have anyone else who does this role. I'd certainly look at it.

Max finished in 13th place in the AFLCA award with 70 votes. Grundy was equal 5th with 82. Both polled 10 in the last round. It's an outstanding effort given we won 5 games. Oliver polled in 10 games. The coaches obviously rated his influence more than the media and the All Australian selectors.

As I said, he's not really like Salem at all. He's a better mark, a bit taller, covers the ground better and kicks well over 40 metres rather than Salem's 20 metre chip kicks. He'll pull the trigger and kick in board with great accuracy. Whitfield like, maybe how Grant Birchall played a few years back when the Hawks had all those blokes who never missed with a kick. We'd be better with him for sure.

Luke Darcy is still a selector isn't he? If he is Gawn is a monty for the bench. Darcy loves him. A number of times during the year referred to him as "the best ruckman in the game".

There's plenty of other decent talent - Young and Ash would both suit us. It's disappointing but at the start of the year we'd have been expecting a pick around 16-18.

He has been treated very harshly in the media awards this year. A few weeks back when he got 5 votes in the coaches award against St Kilda, Warwick Green didn't list him in the best and said that Marshall beat him. The Herald Sun has been even harder on him, but at least they gave him the three this week. He'll get 3 Brownlow votes - nothing surer, but I think if Grundy was given 8 for Friday night, against an underdone Bellchambers then Gawn was at least a 9 for his effort against a fully fit and very in form opponent.

I coached against this young fellow when he played juniors at Somerville. Also know him from representative cricket. He's a cracking young man and a real winner. Skills are outstanding, pace is good and he's a hard worker. His brother is at the Bulldogs. I'd be pretty happy if he became a Demon. I'd liken more to Whitfield than Salem to be honest. He's quicker and a better mark than Salem.