Smokey

By this logic, we should never have got rid of Cameron Schwab then right? Remembering the catalyst for him getting moved on was 2 enormous losses at the start of the 2013 season. We were investigated for tanking with him at the helm, how can you possibly say the CEO has 0 influence over on-field performance? You seemingly have little understanding of how corporate structures operate in practice.

Actually, yes. It certainly is.

Talk about jumping at shadows lol

Please quote my comments around the origins of Norm's sacking for context champ

Extra spicy summation, especially round here. I wasn’t alive during this time so I’ll refrain from commenting myself.

At some point we need continuity. There's no point dropping 5 each week if when you look at every player individually, 75% of them wouldn't have held a spot last year at their current output. Singling out certain players and replacing them with underdone or unproven VFL players gives us nothing, short term and long term. Some people want blood each week, and I get that, but you can't pour from an empty cup. We already have most of our depth players featuring regularly this year due to injuries and what not. Our problem is fundamental across the whole playing group right now, and as a group they need to find a way out of this mess. Random appearances by middle tier Casey players will not help the group heal and move forward. No changes except injuries.

The title of a thread can be confusing at times, but this one is clear. Go whinge elsewhere.

Couldn't agree more. Next they'll want kids that come dead last in a track race to get a ribbon too. Oh wait ... they do. Round 6 and we are already comparing this to the Neeld era? The drama around here rivals Dawson's Creek sometimes.

I never got asked what team I wanted to follow as a kid. Neither did my father or his. We are melbourne, no matter how painful it is.

Really liking that metaphor earl haha made me laugh. Thank you

I promised my 6 month old multiple times since she was born in October last year that she was born at the right time to be a demon haha

this is going to be a very telling post game interview from goody. I want to see him angry. I want to see him irrational. If I have to listen to him telling us that this isn’t our brand and that we will improve I will lose it.

Looking forward to the number 1 draft pick next year

Probably not the right game for terms like "blood bath" mate

The in’s are good for sure. Crunch time for jeffy, do it now or probably face delistment and end of career. Got a feeling he’ll be on tomorrow night. Stretch and Lockhart have potential to add value. ANB if he finds some late 2018 type form could be important (not holding my breath for this one). Tim Smith up forward makes sense now jeffy is back, happy for bull to replace tmac who really needs to go back to CHB for the foreseeable future. Just make a contest, tmac has hardly been giving us that so an upgrade here is a low hanging fruit. All things considered, plenty riding on jeffy right now to have a day out with some ground ball. Hope he fires, he’s absolutely brilliant when he’s on. Carn Jeffy ... Obviously expecting a loss but a certain little fire inside me will never die.

I accept this, such is my lack of enthusiasm for anything demons related right now. Other than whinging on demonland of course.

And you think keeping Jesse here against his will would yield better results? He not exactly a professional ... we all agreed an established key defender was what we needed and the club got one.

Why Though? We don’t play the G that well at all, haven’t for awhile. From memory we mostly just beat poor teams at home last year. Happy to be corrected cause I can’t be bothered looking it up.

If we were a genuine contender last year, we wouldn’t be sitting 17th right now. Get your point but cost us a possible premiership? Loooong bow

We needed to pinch the flag last year a la doggies 2016. We are well and truly headed down the same path minus the chocolates of a random unexpected flag. Classic Melbourne.

Disagree. Rather a boss who relentlessly pursues the best interests of the club, not one that backs down to the first sign of resistance by stakeholders.

I wouldn't take our website as gospel, it's quite poorly run this year.

Imagine if all bosses in the world were like this. Bad 5 weeks? Sack a bunch of key people. Sounds brutal and shortsighted at best. Not saying these 3 aren't part of the problem right now, but I'm failing to see any reasoned logic behind such a significant restructure so early in the season. Say we did sack these 3 effective immediately, and went on to lose the next 5 games with new guys, do we do the same again? Do we even have the funds to breach contracts like these so indiscriminately? 2019 is obviously a write off, and honestly that's not the worst thing in the world. Our linear improvement had to come to a halt at some point. The remainder of the season should be focused on developing young kids and giving game time to those who we think may contribute to the senior team over the next few years, getting some continuity wherever possible into our best 22 without taking any risks and giving the coaching staff the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of 2019 so far and correct them. I would support sacking Chaplin and McCartney at season end if we finish bottom 4, because frankly even though a step backward for us right now statistically is pretty normal, that's a too far of a step. But we may as well use the rest of this wasted season to see if they are capable of correcting the ships course. I am worried about the arrival of Pert and the decline in many elements of culture. Players calling each other out, leaking of information ... its really concerning. I wish Jackson stayed on, Pert is making me incredibly nervous.

Brace yourselves, the armchair high performance dieticians are coming

Win the contested ball and we win this game. Outside pace means little when your getting bullied off the footy. Dees by plenty.