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What questions would these be? FMD. On a more serious note, I know for me as I have had a family, my commitments to AFL are no longer the priority - as it may be for some... and that's ok. Not every person lives their entire life fully committed to attending games, or can justify it to themselves or their family members. The options of how we spend our lives on weekends is not so myopic as it may have been 20 years ago (in my 20's). You're merely putting your own expectations on how a life should be lived, onto others, and I'd argue it's far too inflexible.

Is this logo 'on brand'? We moved this on circa 15 years ago eh?

Well that was easily solved @kev martin ?

Yep - it's a rare day I agree with your constant vitriol of the club selections and players @olisik (back handed, I know) - however, the evidence from the last few years is that Harmes struggles in this position... however, I defer to the selection committee... the decision cannot be around 'it'll click sometime for him'... so what else is there to do?

thanks for the insight @deelusions from afar

How are we all feeling a few years on from the mortal remains of Jack Watts leaving the club? Oscar's in the same echelon.... Here's to this thread getting to as many pages as JW...

Good chat there kind bloke - would you care to point me in the direction of it?

This will seem like a ridiculous question so close to the start of the season, but am I right that the AFL app no longer shows games and that if I wish to view a game, Kayo is the way to go, to be able to watch on a device? Thanks in advance...

haha! aren't you being negative yet again after just one post ?

no one else in the midfield does that with regularity... perhaps that's why he is picked... he legitimately contributes to team ethos...

[censored] me lads and ladies... a lot of apathy/unfounded angst towards a bloke that hasn't played a game yet. ...and you call yourselves supporters ?

Ugh, I'm up in arms with all the amateur psychoanalysts on here... If you seriously think you can judge someone from what you view in the false reality that is a press conference...consider your own expectations your own prejudices your own experiences of how you were 'coached' and how that informs what coaches should behave like (and understand that you and your experiences are not the rest of your cohorts, let alone the rest of the population) flip it on it's head. If Melbourne had made the 8 and met versions of your own expectations, you'd consider the bloke to be pretty relaxed considering the $hitstorm his personal life has been over the last year or so, whilst turning up to a high profile job...but just because we missed the 8...it MUST mean x, y, z... also...me earlier.... "just leave Goodwin alone...sob"

[censored] me man, that is magnificent!

Do you reckon the person who delivered the message, was waiting for him to attend the funeral before he pressed 'dial'?? ?

I think it's unfair to state that 3 year figure. There are only limited numbers of decent full forwards Cameron Kennedy Lynch Reiwoldt (debatable) Franklin (permanently injured) Melbourne would be vying with 14/15 other teams, to come across someone who is ready made. You can only recruit who is available.

Sometimes I wonder if this is true - perhaps we are where we should be...and it wouldnt matter if Goodwin was coach or not. Bulldogs have a fantastic midfield - 2 years older on average than ours (50 games or so)...but no real recognised forward... they just scraped into the 8 last year. It's not dissimilar to us, with 50 games less average in the midfield, and no forward line to speak of (weid, brown injuries noted). Perhaps I'm just apathetic...and steeling myself for mediocrity in 21.

Good work Kev - I agree in almost totality. My thoughts... You can have authenticity, empathy, and connection AND be really bloody minded and driven towards goals. They're not mutually exclusive. You want people working from a space of values, not from fear (fear of judgement, fear of getting dropped for not performing consistently, fear of being humiliated). I'm camping at the moment, and my neighbour next door whilst he was setting up his 1983 pop top, yelled at his son to 'pi$$ off' (who is 7 it turns out)... poor young kid... operating in a space of fear... now some of us on this site, think that as 18-30yo, the players at the MFC also need to have some 'good, hard conversations also' - as though the club doesn't forensically examine each players output on game day or training....(like all clubs). We don't like being yelled at, we don't like to be disrespected, and we wouldn't follow a leader who acts like that. It wouldn't happen in any other workplace, if you're genuinely trying to create behavioural change. Hilariously, (my thoughts) - sport is about executing skills, in a space of chaos. It's not cognitive like an IT job, or a psychology job, or as a banker, or a baker. There is time to think and time to compose. Sport is [censored] chaotic, at a broad and at a granular level. Stephen Milne could be a premiership hero if it wasn't for an unlucky bounce. Mitch Morton IS! Cale isn't. In every single passage of play, there is a cm here or there, that could conspire to change the game - it's debatable how much is skill, how much is timing, how much is luck... When we are anxious supporters - we tend to forget that.... None of us were questioning Goodwin's empathic (human??) philosophy in 2018.... Happy Friday to you all... one week to go!

10000000000% brother... ps... I miss @Skuit

You'd be well aware of the machine that is AFL football, and the need to fit in. The need to fit in if you are markedly different from others... I cannot imagine an 18yo, who started in 2005 - with the playing list below... would kick up a fuss about a nick name bestowed upon him by his luminaries, or contemporaries, when all an 18yo wants to is fit and get selected. And then you age a few years (but only still 22-25 ), and you know, no one else at the club (aside from Leon or other indigenous athletes) knows what it is like to not be white in and white male dominated industry.. (and you've got the president of said club mouthing off the way he has always done)... I'd like you to really reconsider your statement there @don't make me angry You've got no idea of what afl club land is like, nor do you know what it was like and his lived experience.

Is Mark Williams the second coming? What nuggets does he have that others don't for that training and motivation ye speake of?

I was there for 186, suffered through it live... I was there when the cats cheered Corey Enright pre match for his 300... and the subsequent schaedenfraud during the same game and the brilliant game that Bernie Vince played that night. Standing there as a local amongst the silence... the deathly silence as the siren went.... Kardinia Park is no hoodoo. only to yze getting robbed of Mark of the year in the goal square, whilst Miller took a kidney of Lonergan and we effing ended up drawing.

100% ! Well done. Personally I couldnt see why Melksham would get a gig on the banner - BUT Harmes, well, people do love him.

Nah, I didn't - just riffing on the unrealistic expectations of folk :)

Judging by current enthusiasm...I'd expect most pundits on here @FireInTheBennelly would be disappointed if in his first year, he isn't jagging 3 goals per game, committing 15 pressure acts and holding down a key position spot in the forward line, whilst being touted as leadership material.