Wiseblood

You are as bad as HH.

I think you well and truly did, but we will have to agree to disagree. The Crows may want Aish and are keen to get into the top end of the draft but I highly doubt it will come at the cost of one their most important players, who is already a proven talent. But, as you say, we'll see.

Think you are mis-reading it - what they mean is that if we end up with Vince and Lyons it will be through two completely separate deals.

Was going to say the same thing TheoX. If he is still around later on in the draft he is well worth a look.

Why? I'd love to hear your reasons.

I don't have time to trawl through every one of their threads, particularly one that has over 650 pages. We are heavily into him going by a few posters there. Fair enough. No idea where you got that he was seriously considering it from though although you've either grabbed that from earlier in the thread or just assumed it. Funny that they believe that if the deal happened they would expect a second rounder for a bloke who has played 12 games and not shown a whole lot.

I'd love to see which Crow fans these are as nothing comes up on BigFooty. If you could point me in the right direction of this info that's worth a new thread I'd be very appreciative.

You heard this yourself? And they actually said he wants to come or did you just add that in?

Source of this?

Why?

He will be the type to say Pick 2 for Shiel, Coniglio and Tyson is a fair deal for all parties. Wait for it...

Rubbish. We could have an A grade midfield and he still wouldn't know what to do with it. Pedersen can play as a third tall if we need him. Dunn or Grimes can also play that role on certain types of players but it's a fair point. We would have to draft in a tall back with a later pick for extra cover, but we're not too bad if a deal like that happened.

Could also be saying that Dom Tyson isn't worth Pick 2, so adding Pick 10 and Blease evens the deal a little more.

Not bad at all, although as you suggest some may argue the loss of McDonald and Pick 2 for those guys sees us over paying, but I've thought McDonald is not as good as some suggest. Kicking is horrible and he panics with the ball in his hands.

That sounds closer to the money. No chance GWS would give us Tyson AND Shiel for Pick 2 and Blease. This one is at least more realistic. We then keep Pick 10, trade our two second rounders for Myers and Vince and we start to have some semblance of a midfield.

Of course we would, it's well and truly in our favour.

So does anyone REALLY know if we are a legit chance of nabbing Shiel, or are we just holding on to a few rumours in the hope that we nab him?

How can Jamar be a sweetener and tip it in their favour if he is no real loss to us? You kind of contradict yourself there. Sloane and Crouch are no chance of being let go by Adelaide. They want Aish but not at the expense of two of their best players. Vince will go for a second rounder, either our current one or the compo pick we get for Sylvia.

Why would the Crows cough up an early pick and put all that time into Crouch just to trade him a few years later? I know his rumour was rubbish but there is absolutely no chance they would trade Crouch.

I thought he might have been. Further looks at the other guys tweets proves that, shouldn't have been so quick to post it.

Very true. I don't personally think that deal is a possibility and if it was FB or a 'mate' suggesting it then I wouldn't bother, but I figure someone like Jon Ralph putting it out there means there is a least a small amount of merit in it.

As laughable as that deal sounds you can't help but have a small part of you worry about it after Mahoney said we are more likely to swap Pick 2 for players rather than a great player!

Almost as laughable as some of your suggestions big fella! Didn't think that was possible...

Ralph just tweeted that someone on Twitter who is in the know has claimed that it could be Vince, McKernan and Henderson for Pick 2. Not taking that too seriously as the bloke he quoted on Twitter has no followers but on the other hand Ralph wouldn't re-tweet it if it didn't have some possibility too it. One minute they say Pick 2 not involved, the next minute this. God bless trade week.

So you would rather give away a pick for a bloke who is unproven at AFL level and ignore a bloke who has shown that he CAN get it done at AFL level? Smart thinking...