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Sorry I shouldn't do this but been watching Parsh and he has butcherd the ball and looks bit overawed.. We nailed this.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/clayton-oliver-debut-puts-young-midfielder-straight-into-rising-star-contention/news-story/792c9197b5ef5dbecc43c9956d8e17cf

How good was his contested mark against a more senior and bigger Callan Ward

Came out in the Herald Sun.

Just watched the video. First of all Roosy is all class, i could watch that all day. Btw did anyone see the big handshake he gave Clarry then huge grin afterwards. That tells me Roos knows he has something pretty special and is a marrive wrap for the kid.

Really..? Think we all forget how good Trengove debut year was. And as much as I can't stand the little weasel Scully too was pretty impressive. In fact Scully best year in AFL football in terms of disposal was his first year. Their impact on their first year was very impressive especially Trengove. Could you imagine if we got that Trengove of 2010-2011 back? oh my.... Also make the case for Jack Viney who was BOG In his debut game against the horrible loss against Port

I would be very surprise. In fact couldn't think of anything more stupid to do. He was born a senior player right from when I watched him absolutely ragdoll kids last year and his last 3 weeks has proved that this is exactly his level. If he needs a rest we'll give him a week off. [censored] Casey

We even had one cry at training..

No its not.

Oliver has avoided suspension and been $1000.

The Essendon/Goodwin saga is completely irrelevant now. He got clear, we move on now. Id rather talk about Goodwin the MFC coach from next year onwards. It was very heartening to read the other day that Hogan has a very healthy relationship with Goodwin. Just show the impressive people skills and relationships he has with the players.

Love it

How brutal was his tackle on Aaron Young!

W..T..F..

Your reading way too much into a very small issue..

Good article on Oliver in the local Echuca paper. Clayton a Demon for punishment

This makes me think we possibly have a VFL/SANFL/WAFL player in our sights but who knows.

Just on Oliver the couple of games o saw the bushies play obviously he dominated. He definitely was alot pudgy compared to what he is now and even back then he had a good burst of speed when he could win a stoppage and just burst out of the contest. For a kid that was carrying weight i was quite surprised and impressed he actually had decent pace. Now that he is trimmed right down and toned up i expect his pace to really go up a notch now to the point where who knows maybe it might be Dangerfield like.. A 187cm 86kg Beast of a midfielder bursting out of packs is something i have seriously craved for a long time.

I know its an absolute joke.

Trent Cotchin is the most overated playerin the AFL. His leadership is putrid and hasn't even gotten a kick in last 2 years finals. It was an absolute joke that he got air time in last months superstar segment on Fox Footy. Please.. Give me the lion hearted Nathan Jones every day. EDIT: Why is that everytime i open up to comment the last reply i quoted is still there and it won't go away. Happens all the time. Friggen frustrating.

He didn't say that all Saty.. i dont speak for him but i agree that at the moment we are still all too reliant on Nathan Jones as our go to man and someone who is just going to win us games. We are NOT going to be playing finals if that is still the case. For us to become a good finals team we need the likes of Viney Brayshaw Tyson and Salem over the next few 'years' to really step up to the point where they are getting hard tags instead of Jones. Remember Shane Crawford? For some many years he was always their number 1 midfielder during those first couple of years of Clarkson era. He was the inspirational skipper that was always getting the number 1 tag and Towards the end of his career in fact 2008, Hawthorn had a good spread of up and coming A graders in Mitchell Hodge Lewis that they were able to take more control of the midfield leaving Crawford to play more on a half forward and rotating off the bench and still able to make a contribution. This is the dream scenario for me in 3 years time when we are playing finals that Tyson Viney Brayshaw Oliver Salem and Petracca will be all borderline A graders and starting on ball line up that they are able to push Jones out to playing more up forward rotating off the bench and still having an influence exactly like Crawford did.

If training form gets you a spot in our round 1 side then Terlich, Matt Jones and Jack Grimes will be playing.. I do not want that.

Don't want to turn this into a [censored] sling contest but if Paul Roos can continue to play Nathan Jones with a busted neck all year then I'm pretty sure he will be in his round 1 side regardless of he is 80% fit.. Look at our round 1 side last year. We had a very healthy list and we still played Kent Vanden Brayshaw who all had interrupted pre season's and had to play couple of games at Casey first.

Anyways lets get back to Clayton Oliver who i am genuinely excited to see play this year. Will be very interesting to see if Roosy does a 'Brayshaw' with him see how he goes at VFL level first. Going by the training reports seem to be really impressing so far!

Jones has always been a strong runner right from his Triathlon days back when he was playing TAC cup. I think they want to improve his running to really push him to the next level which is great. Even if he hadn't Jones would still get a game regardless. He is an absolute inspirational and courageous captainthat there is no way Paul Roos wouldn't select him based that he couldn't improve his already strong running endurance.