Garbo

Going to be a cracking grand final

Port were always sus until the last few weeks when they beat dogs and cats. Shown that that was an anomaly. Don’t think it matters either way we match up well vs any side. Dogs only play is to dominate the mid which won’t happen. Going to be a rude awakening in a fortnight for them

No change but if May does fail to get up, I’d be very tempted to throw tmac down back and bring in Mitch Brown or Weid (can’t believe I typed that)

Is Goodwin the right guy…

Think weid not locking in a spot is more of an indication of where he is at and not the strength of our key fwds, I doubt very much if anyone currently performing as a kpp on a senior list on a consistent basis would have any trouble keeping one of tmac or Ben brown out. If you look at our list we have the whole best 22 and then some locked in for next year and beyond, the only players yet to sign on are not in the team on a regular basis. I don’t foresee any one under contract asking to go in this years trade period unless we push them out. To get Cerra a top 10 player would need to be traded like a viney or Langdon or Salem or a young high pick like Jackson or Pickett. Which means a zero net gain. No fringe player would bring in enough to get a deal done even with picks we have. If it could great but I’m trying to be realistic.

Firstly given we have no picks and he is a highly rated young player who was also a high draft pick, we would need to trade something to get something. Who are you willing to trade out which is of roughly equal value. Rivers and picks, Jackson, Pickett? That’s the sort of trade that you would need to do. 2nd when tigers went after Lynch he was a free agent all he cost was money. A 2nd key fwd was a need of tigers as they only had Riewoldt. 3rd our biggest issue all year has been our fwd line if we are going to trade capital for anything it’s got to be another key fwd. Tmac and Ben Brown aren’t a dynasty 1/2. 4th our mid and backs are settled and the equal to best of any team going round. In the mid we already have the best top end talent in trac and Oliver and Gawn, solid experienced roll players in Viney, Harmes and Langdon and Brayshaw. Up coming best 22 talent in Sparrow and Jordan and who ever else we draft. Our balance right now is basically perfect for the next 4-5 years. In summary Cerra would only marginally add to the mid mix, would cost us talent else where both now and going fwd if we can’t resign players due to cap space and prevent us filling real holes in our list. Just look at pies or swans now, do you want to see the team pulled apart just as it starts. We could easily be them in a year or 2 if we play it wrong.

Sure I don’t disagree that he is better than those 3 more that he would still be relegated to being a roll player and would he be satisfied with that (my assumption would be no). Trac and Oliver both have a license to take the game on and leave there man while the rest of the team backs them up and does the dirty work, you can’t have to many doing that or the whole thing falls apart.

Rosman needs to start getting opportunities next year to show what he has, similar to jack watts it’s time to get what we can for weid and go again, nothing to say we can’t get some underrated slightly mature player like Fritsch again with whatever we get in return.

Cerra might end up a good player but I find it hard to see where he fits in, Petracca and Oliver are clear 1 and 2, Viney isn’t going anywhere and is a solid 3rd mid, Harmes, Sparrow and Jordan are all fighting for whatever is left over, Cerra if he came would be fighting for those same minutes. If dogs and gws have shown anything over the last few years is you can have to many star mids, someone need to be the roll player and sacrifice there game which I’m not sure someone like Cerra would be happy to do, the former 3 are happy to do this every week.

Smith is only 191cm only 3cm more than Hibberd, personally I don’t think smith is tall enough or strong enough to play on a kpp and he lacks the footy smarts to play on the mid and smaller fwds as we saw with Cameron the other week. I shudder to think how he would go vs Danger if he got isolated, I’d much prefer Hibberd even if he has lost a yard we only need to look back to his job on Martin earlier this year.

Id have to find a spot for Aaron Davey, probably in place of Fritsch, Brad Greene fairly stiff to miss to.

Brayshaw is a Melbourne (city) boy through and through there is no go home factor there. His parents are here his GF is from here, his mates are here, the only ppl not here are his brothers.

Why would we trade him when he is contracted for another year and value can only increase. Crows would need to be paying massive overs, something like a mid first round pick given he was taken at 27 and shown himself to be at least capable.

I think it’s more that reputations are earned in finals and anyone watching that game could see Oliver was on another level. If he keeps that up for 2 more games no one will ever question Oliver’s status as a genuine star again. I find it interesting that Petracca is now the sidekick in the way the media talks about them now.

Think we scare them more, they couldn’t beat us down there after getting 44 up no chance they beat us after we have a week off in a neutral venue. No one wants to play us now in a straight up match as they know they can’t win.

Well we have one player in Hibberd who has done the job on Cameron before, Smith was atrocious tonight and nothing I have seen this or any other week gives me any confidence he will do any better. I don’t care for who but he can’t be in the team next game. Second Tmac needs to go, I don’t care how good he was in the first half of this year he is cooked and a complete liability, I don’t care if it’s Melksham or Weid or anyone else you can name get him out of there. Between these 2 jokers we start 2 players down. If we make those 2 changes…

Why does smith get a pass, his opponent single handedly kept lions in the game, the number of times he was out of position or caught ball watching is unacceptable, granted he was playing on a good player but given the lions supply Cameron should not have had anywhere near the influence he did. Smith should not been seen again this year after that performance

Smith just not ready for this level of game yet

I think it’s amazing bont and trac genuinely play pure on ball roles and have a level of productivity in front of goal that they can push out a full time fwd, in the past Danger and Martin would split there time fwd and mid to have his output. Still it would be good to have them named 1 and 2 mids next to Gawn as the premier followers they are but alas.

What terrible teams, feel like we could beat either one

Interesting when you look at Peter Wright this year his out out is on par with tmac, is there any other key fwds unable to get a game who are worth looking at.

If we are to spend any capital going after some one it needs to be another key fwd. Tmac is back to his 2019/20 form post bye. Ben Brown looks extremely limited as a player. Jackson could be anything but I don’t see him as a main target fwd long term. Short term for next year I’d be getting Tex Walker in the door, because of his recent issue he would come basically free I’d imagine so nothing to loose there. Long term I’d be trying to get Ben King in the door post 2022, feel like he is almost certainly heading back to Melbourne, Tigers managed with Lynch in there flag window so no reason we couldn’t do the same.

Wouldn’t be surprised if we start this game with an extra at the ball, I get a feeling Goodwin has been saving this all year as a bit of a shock and awe tactic if it works we can smash them round the ball and put them away early but if it fails revert to the extra behind play and grind it out. We tried this vs cats last week in the first half and it might have worked if we made more of our chances and cats didn’t have that run on late in the 2nd. But as we showed we can grind back from basically any deficit so it’s worth the gamble.

I’d love if the followers line was Gawn, Oliver, Petracca all together