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Hoges still has his silly slow pause run up routine when shooting for goal (which he did a lot of today), but it's not as accentuated as last year. He starts off normally, then has two silly steps about half way, before reverting back to a normal approach and follow through.

No, I'd prefer Leach. Point taken.

All Leach does is giggle.

The wind was very strong (cap close to blowing off) and not conducive to precision skills. Rehab group Dawes, Lumumba, Max King, Trengove, Petracca, Weideman, Newton – no Watts. Uncontested ball movement drill starting in deep defence and using wing flanks before hitting a target leading from the goal square. Then broken into 2 groups for ground ball drills - one v one short marking with designated marker, plus long marking with hard lead after pushing/feigning, then doubling back marking/spoil with the same opponent. Neville Jetta doing well negating taller opponents; including Hogan. Four groups in orange (8), pink (9), white (8) and blue (8). Taking turns in working it out of defence through either the corridor or wing. Quick ball movement the theme. It’s a full ground drill that finishes with a score. Oliver and Hulett do a couple of nice things. I like the look of Hulett. His body is ready and he’s only slightly smaller than Hogan. The match simulation starts with a couple of AFL umpires, but Goodwin dictates where play starts (no sign of Roos – although others might have spotted him). The umpires depart, but simulation keeps going for another 20 minutes with Goodwin in charge. Skills difficult due to wind and there are numerous turnovers from missed kicks or errant handballs. Ball movement is far quicker than we’re used to. Players that stood out to me: He made the odd error, but Tyson was the most prolific closely followed by Bugg, who also made skill errors. But he will be handy. Kent was terrific. Speed, evasion and penetration in his kicking. vandenBerg looks like a shiny colt that has been trained to the minute. He’ll make a difference this year. In fact all those that you’ve heard have had a great preseason look like they’ve had a great preseason, including Gawn. Jetta looks in great form. Mitch White took a couple of nice intercept marks and Stretch also impressed. Harmes was quite noticeable with his involvement. I'm not sure his kicking is overly damaging, but he's lively and we all know he can mark. Hogan looks fantastic and got a few touches, but it wasn’t a day for talls. In quick handball congestion drills he also excels like a mid. Brayshaw, Oliver, Vince, Salem, and Jones didn’t take part in the match simulation. Brayshaw with left knee twinge that got bandaged - goes for some running along boundary. Later jogging laps with bandage gone. Doesn’t look in too much discomfort. Points to the inside of his knee as the area of concern. Oscar McDonald hurt his right knee. Had a pronounced limp with a bandage just above the knee. Salem also was getting hamstring worked on along the boundary and failed to take part in the intra. Not a bad session, but the wind made it hard to hit targets. Good energy levels and a far more attacking game style. Getting the balance right will be the key.

Why is this in a Hogan thread ?

He ran 2.97 seconds for the 20 metre sprint at state screening. He was drafted as the best marking mid in his year with an excellent combination of speed and endurance. He also represented his state in cross country running as a junior.

Why anyone would be tipping anything 8 weeks out from a game with no exposed form from round one or any of the NAB challenge series is beyond me.

I didn't refer to a "new world order". I'm merely educating Hood as to the real agenda of many of those pushing climate change, which is wealth distribution.

There's zero doubt it will raise trillions of dollars. A quick google search shows this. Perhaps you have more faith than I that revenues will be wisely spent. The following link gives its calculations. It's a site whose politics you won't share, but that doesn't matter in regards to their simple equation. http://www.climatechangedenier.com.au/carbon-tax/carbon-tax-will-cost-australia-1-35-trillion-dollars/

Morals have nothing to do with it. It's simply common sense, Kid.

I disagree. Jaeger O'Meara is the best young mid I've ever seen enter the game. His first year is without peer in my decades of watching footy. Injury free and O'Meara would make our young developing midfield the envy of the competition.

Lynch shaded Hogan in 2015, but it was very close. Same mark average, same goal average, 2.6 contested marks to 2.4 and 14.8 disposals to 13. It was Lynch's 4th season. Imagine Hogan in 2018. Lynch is a very good player, but he lacks Hogan's aggression and isn't quite as skilfull by hand and foot in ground play.

Fair enough and I wasn't asserting you didn't think he could play notwithstanding his pace. And yes, he has a "deliberate" style.

Ah, don't you love leftism ? You have to feel morally superior, so see the need to declare your own charitable donations on a public forum. But at the same time you support huge taxes on carbon dioxide, which impacts millions of the needy and their ability to warm or cool themselves. Classic leftism. Do something that makes you "feel" (that word again) good and support something that makes zero difference to the climate, but negatively impacts the very people you're trying to support. But at least you feel you're doing your part. Stage one thinking.

Clint, I'd suggest pace wasn't going to adversely effect his career - he'd shown enough already. Plenty of players like Luke Hodge don't have pace. Nonetheless, it's worth re-reading our very own Weber's (?) excellent post (some time ago) that gives insight to navicular injuries and the types of issues potentially facing Trengove, including perhaps even a psychological one: "the midfoot is critical to the 'rigid lever' that the foot must become to allow power in push off, thus for running and jumping. It also must have the flexibility to allow deformation of the foot during weightbearing prior to push off. The navicular is the keystone of the arch which forms the rigid lever. If it's suspect, the whole transfer of power is inhibited. If JT's nav heals without issues of blood supply being affected, there's no reason he can't make a full recovery, and that would include complete power capabilities. If the midfoot was unstable either biomechanically or as a conscious lack of trust in it, he would certainly present with those symptoms, but there are a bunch of other pathologies that could give the same symptoms."

And I care not a jot. What's certain is that you don't.

Earl, I assume you can read ? Christiana Figueres, the Executive Secretary of UNFCCC, warns that the fight against climate change is a process and that the necessary transformation of the world economy will not be decided at one conference or in one agreement. “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history“, Ms Figueres stated at a press conference in Brussels: “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the industrial revolution. That will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change, be it COP 15, 21, 40 – you choose the number. It just does not occur like that. It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation.”

Hogan averaged the same number of 1%ers as Dawes and both averaged less than Pedersen by some margin. Hogan averaged more goal assists than either. Btw, I'm not pushing Pedersen's cause, just correcting you.

Ah, old serious looking, squinty, cross-eyed Ralphy. The same turnip who questioned Melbourne's decision to trade a 20-something pick for Frost at the expense of drafting young talent without realising the trade also netted Alex Neal-Bullen and Oscar McDonald. In the end we got 3 players for that 20-something pick.

It's not just my "pennies", drone, it's the pennies of poverty stricken people across the world, who are needlessly struggling with expensive energy costs. And it's the socialist agenda of the UN to re-engineer western economies. But rather than embrace new science that proves the sun is the driver of climate you're desperate to retain your guilt-ridden dogma that terrible humans are to blame. "We must do something, this is something, therefore we must do this." The Left base all of their decision making on how it makes them "feel", which is why they stuff every economy and the fabric of every society they ever get their hands on. Then it's up to conservatives to fix the mess.

You've been hoodwinked. He didn't even write the speech that got him the gig and he hypocritically disrespected the female, once male, that did. Ask those in the forces what they think of him.

Your point ?

You're so desperate to believe you ignore science.

Your last sentence (which I haven't included) sums things up. His teammates don't trust him. And if you know anything about footy trust is huge.

The peer reviewed paper in the link I just shared proves the sun is the main driver of climate. And, of course, it makes sense, because the planet has been cooler with far greater CO2 than we have now. CO2 lags temperature. Read the link and report back.