ManDee

Time issues again. Can we have a fix, that is a fix not a patch? I have had to turn off the DST!

I would have thought that was the big picture.

Theoretically that could work, but you'd need an awful lot of petrol to put out the fire, far more likely they are just poking the bear.

From the AGE - Players lawyer Tony Hargreaves "We are not talking about 12,000 pages. We are talking about roughly 105 pages for each individual player, which are virtually identical. The AFL Players' Association and (players' QC) David Grace sat in on those player interviews and we are aware of their evidence and have been since last year. Hargreaves refused to be drawn on that jibe and said he had not attempted to contact McDevitt. "I don't speak to McDevitt," he said. "I just read what he has to say in the newspapers ... (But) it is disingenuous for McDevitt to tell us to read the 12,000 pages of evidence. We've seen this before and it's not the evidence, it's a summary of what ASADA says is the evidence. Now let me see, 105 pages times 34 players equals 3570. Hang on, can anyone else see a slight discrepancy? Edit: If any controlling body said it had one page of evidence against me I would be mortified. The AFLPA must have different standards to me. The AFLPA have failed their members miserably. They have failed all the players not accused of cheating by not tearing the EFC a new one and they have failed the EFC players by not attacking the EFC for failure of duty of care to its own players. All the AFLPA appears able to do is blame a governing body for what? Trying to maintain standards in sport where the players are being used in pharmacological experiments using unspecified, untested and unapproved drugs and supplements. Shame AFLPA. By your actions/inactions you are condoning the appalling experiment that took place at the EFC on young men. Shame EFC Shame AFLPA. My fear is that one day we will wake up and find that an EFC player has a serious illness, and the likely cause is that EFC program, what will the AFLPA have to say that day, ASADA were too slow! Place the blame where it belongs the EFC are the villains and must be punished. Don't blame ASADA.

I would rephrase that, Their legal team must want a new Portsea beach house. At the risk of upsetting our many Demonland beaks, all of who I am sure would not entertain drawn out legal battles costing many thousands of dollars, nor would they ever consider embarking on long legal stoushes where the only winners can be the lawyers, oh no not our Demonland beaks.

From the AGE - Players lawyer Tony Hargreaves "Hargreaves refused to be drawn on that jibe and said he had not attempted to contact McDevitt. "I don't speak to McDevitt," he said. "I just read what he has to say in the newspapers ... (But) it is disingenuous for McDevitt to tell us to read the 12,000 pages of evidence. We've seen this before and it's not the evidence, it's a summary of what ASADA says is the evidence." ​If 12,000 pages is the summary of the evidence how much evidence is there? Why is this being played out in the media? Is this a case of trying to win the the battle of public opinion? ASADA have a job to do and from what I have read they appear to be doing it diligently. They would appear to attract criticism if they are too slow or too fast. I for one would like to hear the AFLPA critisise the EFC, it was their program, they failed to keep records and they have used delaying tactics all the way. The EFC are the villians not ASADA.

Juice?

"My dear mother thought I looked like all the 007 actors", "The names Hird, James Hird."

He is still compiling it...... Quite extensive research required here...... Still searching......

No Laura Geitz, we want taller midfielders.

These days a contract seems to mean very little.

Nice work Wtm welcome to the looney bin.

SNAP! It might take some of the players 10 days to read the 350 pages of evidence. From the AFL site. "Each document runs approximately 350 pages, ASADA saying it's distributed 12,000 pages of evidence in total."

FRESH show cause notices have been issued against 34 former and current Essendon players. The amended notices — complete with 60 pages of evidence tailored for each player surrounding the alleged use of the banned peptide Thymosin beta-4 — were issued by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority on Friday afternoon. The evidence includes claims the peptide was sourced from a Shanghai factory and administed to Essendon players. The 34 players have 10 days to respond before ASADA presents its evidence to the Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel.

If we're lucky EFC will leave the country just like James Hardie.

He may never play another game, and we get La bumba who rarely misses a game.

Shame, who comes in or does Goodwin fill that role?

I like the James Hird impersonator with the cognac, The Leopards! We know what that means.

In all seriousness, move over Richmond, 9th is ours.

Eddie would never allow it, impersonating a Colonwood supporter is a crime in itself.

See the bombers fly up up to the .............woops!

No guarantee Frawley will even get a game at the Hawks.

It could be worse, we could barrack for Richmond or West Coast or Freo! RICHMOND What they got: Nil What they lost: Nil Draft selections: 12, 33, 52, 70, 88, 106, 124 WEST COAST What they got: Nil What they lost: Nil FREMANTLE What they got: Nil What they lost: Nil

They are already ahead of us.