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Not necessarily anti Garland, Jetta must come back in, Port have some tall strong forwards, Garland does not play tall, so Frost comes in.

IN:- Spencer, Jetta, Trengove, Frost Out:- Oliver - (corkie-rest) OMac, Kent, Garland Spencer 1st ruck - Gawn to FF- Hogan CHF

I recommend tackling an arm not the body, and pull it down and back if possible, may cause a few dislocations but will not give a free kick. This is for the duckers of the world. You asked for it. Edit:- I have had a few shoulder dislocations and believe me I would rather a hit to the head any day. (Open to smart comments now...)

I would argue both at their best are better than Hurley, but that is merely my opinion. Could add Daniel Cross. Not to mention Peter Moore and Kelvin Templeton, joking.

Chris Dawes, Mitch Clark?

So by your logic, if VW sack it's entire management team then that should be the end of the issue with the 800,000 illegal vehicles that they have sold worldwide. The EFC is a legal entity, the management are employees of that entity. The employees have received various forms of punishment but the EFC has only received collateral penalties other than penalties over the governance issues. The legal entity that is the EFC has received no punishment for allowing 34 players to take part in an experimental illegal (WADA) possibly dangerous drug cheating program. That the EFC did not put in place measures to ensure this would not happen indicates the willingness of the club at all levels to win whatever it costs. The EFC has not received any direct punishment since the 34 were found guilty of cheating. Shuffling deck chairs is not punishment. On another note, the AFL should appoint an independent panel to manage the legal payouts to the 34 with no input from any club or the AFL. Players should be paid out regardless current status, playing, retired or at an another club. A matrix should be created, games played, b&f rating, age, contact status in 2012 etc. The EFC should not be made aware of individual payments just the total for all players.

agree

We do not currently have a good forward/second ruck. Frost, Dawes & Pederen are not good enough. Spencer as a forward is not that far behind but is far superior in the ruck. Max get tired and needs help. I think at this point in time Spencer is a better option. Edit: As a forward/second ruck Spencer would put the wind up most sides with his aggression and size, it may force other sides into playing 2 monsters against us. We should try it for a few weeks if only to give Max a break.

Sounds funny but makes sense. I'm spending far too much time on here!

2015 comparison Spencer V Vickery followed by Dawes and Pedersen. Player Statistics Comparison Jake Spencer Name Tyrone Vickery Melbourne Demons Team Richmond Tigers Ruck Position Forward 36 Career Games 110 Redwood Origin Sandringham Dragons October 9, 1989 Date of Birth May 31, 1990 Turned 26 in 2015 Age Turned 25 in 2015 203cm Height 200cm 108kg Weight 99kg 2010 National Draft Last Drafted In 2008 National Draft Round 6, Pick #96 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #8 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Richmond Tigers 2015 Stats for Season 2015 7 Games 15 2.9 Kicks Per Game 7.2 4.9 Handballs Per Game 3.3 7.7 Disposals Per Game 10.5 1.3 Marks Per Game 4.9 0.4 Goals Per Game 2.1 0 Behinds Per Game 0.6 5.0 Tackles Per Game 1.5 24.7 Hitouts Per Game 5.7 1.7 Frees For Per Game 0.9 1.6 Frees Against Per Game 0.9 4.9 Contested Possessions Per Game 4.7 2.9 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 6.1 6.1 Effective Disposals Per Game 7.1 79.2% Effective Disposals % Per Game 67.6% 2.4 Clangers Per Game 2.0 0.6 Contested Marks Per Game 1.3 0.4 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 2.4 2.3 Clearances Per Game 0.8 0.3 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.1 3.4 One Percenters Per Game 2.1 0 Bounces Per Game 0 82.0 Time On Ground % Per Game 85.9 66.4 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 66.0 72.4 Supercoach Score Per Game 77.9 Player Statistics Comparison Chris Dawes Name Cameron Pedersen Melbourne Demons Team Melbourne Demons Forward Position Forward 115 Career Games 59 Sandringham Origin Box Hill Hawks May 16, 1988 Date of Birth March 17, 1987 Turned 27 in 2015 Age Turned 28 in 2015 193cm Height 193cm 101kg Weight 98kg 2006 National Draft Last Drafted In 2011 National Draft Round 2, Pick #28 Last Draft Position Round 5, Pick #84 Collingwood Magpies Last Drafted By North Melbourne Kangaroos 2015 Stats for Season 2015 14 Games 7 7.1 Kicks Per Game 6.6 4.8 Handballs Per Game 6.0 11.9 Disposals Per Game 12.6 4.3 Marks Per Game 5.3 0.8 Goals Per Game 0.9 0.9 Behinds Per Game 0.9 1.5 Tackles Per Game 2.6 3.1 Hitouts Per Game 3.3 1.5 Frees For Per Game 1.0 1.1 Frees Against Per Game 0.7 5.3 Contested Possessions Per Game 5.6 6.4 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 7.0 8.6 Effective Disposals Per Game 9.1 72.3% Effective Disposals % Per Game 72.2% 2.1 Clangers Per Game 1.9 1.1 Contested Marks Per Game 1.4 0.9 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 1.3 0.7 Clearances Per Game 1.3 0.5 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.6 1.1 One Percenters Per Game 1.9 0 Bounces Per Game 0 88.9 Time On Ground % Per Game 82.0 56.8 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 66.0 59.1 Supercoach Score Per Game 70.7 Edit:- Stats from footywire.com

So did $cully.

More reason to play Spencer, The Pedo/Dawes/Frost experiment does not work. Gawn & Spencer has worked, time to give it another try.

Yes. Spencer and Max play. Pedersen (Dawes - Frost) out. Spence offers much more in the ruck, is more aggressive around the ball and as a deep forward must be manned up, allows Hogan to play CHF. Its not like Pedereson-Frost have been on fire as a KPF. Gawn has 7 goals Frost 4 Pedersen 5. Hitouts last year Spencer 24.7 per game average Dawes 3.1 Pedersen 3.3 -- Goals last year Spencer .4 per game average Dawes .8 Pedersen .9 Edit: Stats from Geelong game last year, Gawn & Spencer Round 12 21st Jun Geelong Spencer K HB D M G B T HO GA I50 FF FA 3 3 6 3 1 0 3 25 0 0 0 0 Gawn 10 9 19 8 1 1 5 44 1 5 2 2

Diamond defence of topaz tokenism, good when it works. Apologies to Mr Tilbrook. Beeb we could reverse it and have the forwards rush in. The forward diamond when big Max takes a rest.

Against Brisbane I'd be happy to have Spencer 1st ruck with Gawn at FF and Hogan CHF - No Pedo or Frost or Dawes. Imagine Gawn against their second ruck!

Gawn & Spencer can & has worked. Some want to exclude the Geelong match, why? It can work, give it another go.

Yes. Maybe not every week but regularly to look after Gawny. I also agree that with his new found confidence he will be a better forward.

Diamond defence of topaz tokenism, good when it works. Apologies to Mr Tilbrook.

Still wish she would teach the Hulk to kick.

Moonie, I have asked in several ways and you have chosen to ignore, one last try. Why not Frost? Now don't roll out the not in form, is Garland in form? Pedersen, Dawes, OMac & Frost can all play back, do you think Garland was a better option?

How could I forget Fred, 18 goals 1 point in his last match, should have dragged him for that point, hope it wasn't his first kick.

Exactly.

Exactly BS or Exactly they won't pick Spencer?